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Post by facemeat on Feb 25, 2015 0:40:41 GMT -5
I think some people need to recognize that liking or disliking a wrestler isn't just about their wrestling ability and mic skills. If it was, Cena would be universally loved.
Booking plays a major role as well.
I can recognize that Reigns has improved in the ring somewhat and simultaneously hate his character and booking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 0:43:01 GMT -5
Nope he really just hasn't impress me yet and that match with Bryan wasn't that great as you people think. And that promo yesterday was boring as usual, so I'm going to stop here since there's no point in arguing with you guys who love and idolize him. Adios! There's also no point arguing with you guys who hate him and don't want to concede anything about him has been good. Can't blame them. They're never wrong, man. Trolls see the world differently.
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Post by Planktung on Feb 25, 2015 1:09:49 GMT -5
Ugh.
Roman Reigns just isn't ready for the spot that he's being propelled into. Yes, he has improved. No, he's not awful. However, he's not ready to headline WrestleMania at this stage in his career and WWE abysmally forcing it doesn't help one bit.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 25, 2015 1:15:28 GMT -5
Its just not possible to please everyone. Everyone has a different opinion especially in wrestling. I'm a huge fan of Reigns. Do I think hes absolutely ready to main event WrestleMania? No. I'm definitely happy he is main eventing though. Its something completely new and we haven't seen that in a while. You could say the same if it was Bryan vs Lesnar as well something fresh but thats not what were getting. I refuse to say negative comments about this match because I haven't seen it yet. I don't expect these two to put on a wrestling clinic but I do expect them to beat the hell out of each other and hopefully surprise a lot of people and make them feel like they got their moneys worth.
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Post by xavion2004 on Feb 25, 2015 8:48:12 GMT -5
Maybe one of the reasons I don't have a problem with Reigns is because I couldn't give a flying **** about Wrestlemania or who's headlining it. It's just like the Super Bowl. Calling it the Super Bowl doesn't make it the best NFL game of the year, and winning the Super Bowl doesn't make you the best team in the NFL.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 25, 2015 8:50:47 GMT -5
Ugh this isn't hard. If he needs to improve...then he isn't ready. If he's good in the ring but doesn't have the mic skills yet...then he isn't ready. If he's just now "coming along" and people are "warming up to him"...then he isn't ready. To be going over Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania for the World Title in the main event means he needs to be ready. Not almost. Not "with more time". Not "if he improves his mic skills". He needs to be ready or it's going to flop. Period. Maybe you should be watching the actual showing of Raw instead of a cut down 90 minute version to see that he has improved in both facets. Irrelevant point because the 90 minute version never cuts out Roman stuff. And again, as you and a LOT of others fail to comprehend, hes not saying Roman hasn't improved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 8:56:09 GMT -5
Maybe you should be watching the actual showing of Raw instead of a cut down 90 minute version to see that he has improved in both facets. Irrelevant point because the 90 minute version never cuts out Roman stuff. And again, as you and a LOT of others fail to comprehend, hes not saying Roman hasn't improved.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 25, 2015 9:01:13 GMT -5
Ugh this isn't hard. If he needs to improve...then he isn't ready. If he's good in the ring but doesn't have the mic skills yet...then he isn't ready. If he's just now "coming along" and people are "warming up to him"...then he isn't ready. To be going over Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania for the World Title in the main event means he needs to be ready. Not almost. Not "with more time". Not "if he improves his mic skills". He needs to be ready or it's going to flop. Period. Maybe you should be watching the actual showing of Raw instead of a cut down 90 minute version to see that he has improved in both facets. Roman was booked like sh*t on Raw and he was atrocious on the mic. If this was a debate on watching him at Fastlane you would have a point. However, you said Raw. Roman sucked on Raw. Roman's booking sucked on Raw. He went backwards on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 9:12:22 GMT -5
In this business you don't have the be the best wrestler or mic worker, You have to be over with the fans and be the reason people are turning up each week to watch RAW and sure there's a few people that like him and may tune in especially for him but its no way near enough yet.
Theres no way in hell he should have got superstar of the year, won the rumble or be the one to beat the one in twenty one and one. Im no hater to Roman, Im a hater to anyone who thinks he should be in the spot he's in.
And personally on a side note, I would have loved to see a Brock Leaner vs randy Orton match (not at mania) and it sucks that It may never happen
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 25, 2015 9:13:52 GMT -5
The issue isn't about making a new main event star. I LOVE that they're making a new main event star. I can't take another Cena/Big Show/Kane/Orton main event. However, The main event of Wrestlemania (even during the top heavy attitude era) was also given to the two most over stars on the roster. Period. Roman Reigns is not one of the two most over stars on the roster...no matter how much WWE tries to tell you otherwise. This is the issue here. WWE is trying to MAKE him the star that he just isn't yet. Will he reach that level someday with hard work and a track record of solid series of matches? Yes absolutley. Will he reach that level just because WWE tells the fans he's already at that level? No. He will recieve backlash like he's been getting since Royal Rumble. This sums up my feelings exactly. It feels like a " you, we know what you want more than you do" attitude from WWE. I really get the feeling that the suits at whatever they're calling Titan Towers these days thinks of us as the illiterate, inbred rednecks that all non-wrestling fans believes us to be. There's also no point arguing with you guys who hate him and don't want to concede anything about him has been good. Can't blame them. They're never wrong, man. Trolls see the world differently. To be fair, there are just as many trolls who love Reigns as there are one who hate him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 9:23:32 GMT -5
The issue isn't about making a new main event star. I LOVE that they're making a new main event star. I can't take another Cena/Big Show/Kane/Orton main event. However, The main event of Wrestlemania (even during the top heavy attitude era) was also given to the two most over stars on the roster. Period. Roman Reigns is not one of the two most over stars on the roster...no matter how much WWE tries to tell you otherwise. This is the issue here. WWE is trying to MAKE him the star that he just isn't yet. Will he reach that level someday with hard work and a track record of solid series of matches? Yes absolutley. Will he reach that level just because WWE tells the fans he's already at that level? No. He will recieve backlash like he's been getting since Royal Rumble. This sums up my feelings exactly. It feels like a " you, we know what you want more than you do" attitude from WWE. I really get the feeling that the suits at whatever they're calling Titan Towers these days thinks of us as the illiterate, inbred rednecks that all non-wrestling fans believes us to be. Can't blame them. They're never wrong, man. Trolls see the world differently. To be fair, there are just as many trolls who love Reigns as there are one who hate him. Not to the extent of the blind hatred. Not even close.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 25, 2015 9:25:32 GMT -5
Sill my, I thought we were past the point where Roman Reigns supporters read things as "Roman sucks" even though there are actual thoughts behind people's opinions. It's why I appreciate talking to Robert69 and @impact34. They can have an actual discussion with me about Roman Reigns instead of just saying things like "Roman doesn't suck" or "You Roman haters can't have your minds changed", which is just totally insulting. Just comprehend things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 9:30:48 GMT -5
As Much as I love Roman Reigns I just know this match at WM is not gonna be A Ring Classic There gonna Have To Add a Veteran Wrestler in there and make it a 3 Way.Put Seth Rollins or daniel bryan In the match that way at least a lot more people will be into the match.But If not I hope these two can pull this off because I don't want Roman to fall flat at The Biggest Event at WM.This could either make him or break him I'm just praying this match will be good.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 25, 2015 9:56:29 GMT -5
I don't want another ten years of the unstoppable babyface who overcomes all odds and shrugs off every challenge. Sure you do. You just don't want it to be Roman Reigns.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 25, 2015 10:01:45 GMT -5
This sums up my feelings exactly. It feels like a " you, we know what you want more than you do" attitude from WWE. I really get the feeling that the suits at whatever they're calling Titan Towers these days thinks of us as the illiterate, inbred rednecks that all non-wrestling fans believes us to be. To be fair, there are just as many trolls who love Reigns as there are one who hate him. Not to the extent of the blind hatred. Not even close. The blind hatred side is far worse. I'd be an idiot to try and say otherwise. I'm just saying that no side is innocent here.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 25, 2015 10:09:22 GMT -5
I don't want another ten years of the unstoppable babyface who overcomes all odds and shrugs off every challenge. Sure you do. You just don't want it to be Roman Reigns. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he wants an unstoppable babyface who overcomes all odds but doesn't shrug off every challenge like it's nothing. Maybe only he knows. What a concept!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 25, 2015 10:12:41 GMT -5
Sure you do. You just don't want it to be Roman Reigns. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he wants an unstoppable babyface who overcomes all odds but doesn't shrug off every challenge like it's nothing. Maybe only he knows. What a concept! From the tears and outrage every time Daniel Bryan loses, it's obvious that the complainers want a babyface who wins every time. It just has to be a babyface who has been "buried" previously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 10:13:13 GMT -5
I like Daniel Bryan. I like Roman Reigns.
I can't wait for both of their WM matches.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 25, 2015 10:18:29 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he wants an unstoppable babyface who overcomes all odds but doesn't shrug off every challenge like it's nothing. Maybe only he knows. What a concept! From the tears and outrage every time Daniel Bryan loses, it's obvious that the complainers want a babyface who wins every time. It just has to be a babyface who has been "buried" previously. Ah, this gimmick of yours is so constantly refreshing. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that no matter who it is, I think people don't want someone who just shrugs off his opponents as if they're nothing. The other point I was trying to make was that we don't know what he wants specifically and to assume so is kind of a problem around here. Grouping everyone into the same category is insulting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 10:23:45 GMT -5
Off topic Loving the fact that roman reigns and the divas are topping the threads around here!!!!! Go Roman and Divas!!
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