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Post by micco on Apr 26, 2015 10:34:51 GMT -5
From the correspondence I've had with FTC......they are putting great attention into the upcoming ROH line. Those with RA collections will be very happy, and will now be able to add to that collection. The sculptor for the ROH line previously worked for NECA and his work is top notch. FTC will be the same to wrestling figure collectors, as it has been to the Mego/DC comic "retro style" figure collectors, a dream come true! Patience, it's coming and will be worth the wait! That just a echoed what they've been saying since the announcement. Obviously there haven't been any protos, but there hasn't even been any news updates. They've just been a broken record which is disconcerting to me. My problem is they assume that people with "ra collections will be very happy" but they're just basing that off of the fact that the figures will be ra style. Nothing has been revealed about these figures that indicates they've considered any other factors that would contribute to the consumers happiness or satisfaction. The things that have been revealed have, so far, only indicated why I'd be unhappy. Namely the fact that they have so few ra molds at their disposal.
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Post by billthomson1984 on Apr 26, 2015 10:54:23 GMT -5
I was interested in wholesaling these and had contacted the rep who was on here, however I passed my details on in regards to this and heard nothing back
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Post by East Coast on Apr 26, 2015 12:41:17 GMT -5
as someone who has collected online exclusive action figures from small toy companies before.......delays are the name of the game.
it happens to all of them
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Post by derekbrazen on Apr 26, 2015 15:02:16 GMT -5
From the correspondence I've had with FTC......they are putting great attention into the upcoming ROH line. Those with RA collections will be very happy quote] I DON'T have an RA collection, mine is a mix of JAKKS DA, Mattel Elite & Marvel-TNA. because I want a collection that is realistically in scale with eachother. I'm very worried that this ROH line will look good, but WON'T be good enough to make me spend my $$ on JAKKS' RA figs that will not fit into my pre-existing collection. I want to support Ring of Honor, but their toy line has to fit into my per-existing collection. I'm someone who will spend the $$ to have a detailed & posing collection of wrestling figs. Maybe there is more $$ into just doing simple figs for kids. But, I'm very worried that these figs, (how ever detailed they end up being) will not get me to spend $$ to add them to my collection. And will not generate the $$ to justify a 2nd, 3rd or 4th series of ROH figs. I'm upset that proto's haven't come out yet, cuz I just want to know if I'm gonna drop $$ on pre-ordering this set, or I'm gonna have to buy customs on ebay to get the ROH figs I want. P.S. I'd love an Mattel Elite version of Lucha Underground's Pentagon Jr.
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Post by East Coast on Apr 26, 2015 16:03:12 GMT -5
From the correspondence I've had with FTC......they are putting great attention into the upcoming ROH line. Those with RA collections will be very happy quote] I DON'T have an RA collection, mine is a mix of JAKKS DA, Mattel Elite & Marvel-TNA. because I want a collection that is realistically in scale with eachother. I'm very worried that this ROH line will look good, but WON'T be good enough to make me spend my $$ on JAKKS' RA figs that will not fit into my pre-existing collection. I want to support Ring of Honor, but their toy line has to fit into my per-existing collection. I'm someone who will spend the $$ to have a detailed & posing collection of wrestling figs. Maybe there is more $$ into just doing simple figs for kids. But, I'm very worried that these figs, (how ever detailed they end up being) will not get me to spend $$ to add them to my collection. And will not generate the $$ to justify a 2nd, 3rd or 4th series of ROH figs. I'm upset that proto's haven't come out yet, cuz I just want to know if I'm gonna drop $$ on pre-ordering this set, or I'm gonna have to buy customs on ebay to get the ROH figs I want. P.S. I'd love an Mattel Elite version of Lucha Underground's Pentagon Jr. i've been considering some kind of mash-up of elite 26 Road Dogg legs on an elite 24 Rey Mysterio
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Post by derekbrazen on Apr 26, 2015 16:15:55 GMT -5
let me know if you ever do it.
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Post by poindizzle on Apr 26, 2015 23:11:21 GMT -5
The delays are nothing new with FTC. Their line of Retro Mego style KISS figures had some terrible delays in recent years.
Oh well, if the quality is there then I can wait. I believe the sentiment behind making these RA style is a smart one. The largest set of wrestling figures and the longest running was Ruthless Aggression. These will expand on that depth of roster and allow fantasy matches and so forth.
Obviously they weren't going to be able to sink much into this line and having preexisting molds is saving them on their budget. And obviously too, their bodies weren't going to be any molds currently on the market.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 6:27:14 GMT -5
That custom Pentagon Jr is fantastic...
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Post by Chip on Apr 28, 2015 13:42:01 GMT -5
the reason everyone is hearing the same things "broken record" is because there just isn't any new update at this point. its pretty much the same questions being asked every single week.
protos will be out when they are out. FTC isn't Mattel...they don't release protos 8 months before figures come out. the line is being made. thats the only answer that can be given.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Apr 28, 2015 17:09:48 GMT -5
the reason everyone is hearing the same things "broken record" is because there just isn't any new update at this point. its pretty much the same questions being asked every single week. protos will be out when they are out. FTC isn't Mattel...they don't release protos 8 months before figures come out. the line is being made. thats the only answer that can be given. Mattel doesn't release protos 8 months before the figures come out... We get blind pre-orders six months before the figs come out then see them like a month before they come out
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Post by micco on Apr 28, 2015 18:42:46 GMT -5
the reason everyone is hearing the same things "broken record" is because there just isn't any new update at this point. its pretty much the same questions being asked every single week. protos will be out when they are out. FTC isn't Mattel...they don't release protos 8 months before figures come out. the line is being made. thats the only answer that can be given. If there isn't even a timeline on when proto pics will be made available, then that's not a good sign if you ask me. They can very easily say that "the line is being worked on" right up until the day they announce the line has been cancelled. This is why I think that announcing the acquisition of the roh license without any timetable for when news would be available was ill-advised. It was a very mark thing to do. It's reminiscent of kids on this board who have to be first to post something first when a wrestler gets a new attire even though the post is unnecessary and irrelevant until there's something tangible that can be shown. My feeling is that the premature announcement can hurt them because now it's created skepticism in potential consumers like myself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 19:42:39 GMT -5
As a collector, I'm pretty eager for this line to be released. What your thoughts are, micco, just equate to bad business. Why should a company hold announcing a business arrangement until prototypes for action figures are available? The action figures are generating a lot of interest and talk, but their deal was not solely for action figures. Prototype shots are not something FTC has to give us either, it's a courtesy, not a requirement.
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Post by micco on Apr 28, 2015 20:59:08 GMT -5
As a collector, I'm pretty eager for this line to be released. What your thoughts are, micco, just equate to bad business. Why should a company hold announcing a business arrangement until prototypes for action figures are available? The action figures are generating a lot of interest and talk, but their deal was not solely for action figures. Prototype shots are not something FTC has to give us either, it's a courtesy, not a requirement. The announcement is not a requirement either. Especially before any work has been done. From where I stand, it looks like the figures are never coming out. In that case the announcement would not have only been a waste of everyone's time but it would also reflect poorly on them as a company. Proto pics may not be a requirement but they are commonplace these days, especially amongst the types of companies that announce when they obtain a new license. However toy fair, the biggest platform for debuting product, came and went and not a peep. I'm curious to hear what part of making an announcement 8 months or more in advance is good business. It succeeded at generating interest but with nothing to capitalize on it, that interest has faded in a lot of people. How is that better than making an announcement when you know you'll be able to show something around two or three months later and then in another couple months, have a product for sale?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 21:15:09 GMT -5
Because as I mentioned, their business deal is not solely for action figures. The announcement in October was simply "ROH and FTC have come to terms on a licensing agreement for merchandise which will include replica belts and action figures". That announcement was to get people talking about all aspects of the deal, not just action figures. Figures might be important to you as a collector, but other people might want the replica stuff. They had those replica rings out at the end of the year, and the replica belts (which I have to say look great) came out in March. We can agree to disagree, you can think what you want, but it is absolutely foolish to think "this line is never coming out" when it's been stated by both companies that it most certainly is. Not to mention the legal issues of upholding contracts, licensing, and things like that. You can't just get a license, then turn around and say "you know what, forget it". That's not how companies work. As far as protos, being commonplace still doesn't make them necessary. Regarding Toy Fair, once again, we're not dealing with Mattel or even JAKKS here. FTC is not a huge corporation, they don't have a board of directors to answer to. Like it or not, they can very much do what they want when it comes to what is revealed and when.
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Post by Chip on Apr 28, 2015 21:39:18 GMT -5
the line is coming out.
period.
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Post by billthomson1984 on Apr 28, 2015 21:56:50 GMT -5
the line is coming out. period. My only issue was the fact I have expressed an interest in stocking the line and passed along my details and heard nothing from the rep
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Post by micco on Apr 29, 2015 7:07:22 GMT -5
the line is coming out. period. Yeah. That's exactly what they've been saying all along. But if you can't say WHEN it's coming out, then I'll believe it when I see it. Fair enough?
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Apr 29, 2015 7:49:52 GMT -5
As a collector, I'm pretty eager for this line to be released. What your thoughts are, micco, just equate to bad business. Why should a company hold announcing a business arrangement until prototypes for action figures are available? The action figures are generating a lot of interest and talk, but their deal was not solely for action figures. Prototype shots are not something FTC has to give us either, it's a courtesy, not a requirement. Correspondence and courtesy is something they should be incredible at if they want us to spend top dollar on old molds. I'm not disagreeing with you that they don't have to do anything for us, but if they were being smart from a business perspective they should wait to announce anything about the toys until you have something more concrete, ie prototypes or at least confirmation of a lineup. What they have said and are doing now is not doing them any favors. I sincerely doubt these will end up anywhere in retail so preparing the 'hardcore consumer' for their products is all they have to generate interest. No pre-orders available and no information after months of anticipation is only going to kill interest for their base
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 8:25:42 GMT -5
My guess is this: the replica belts were made first because they are a much bigger moneymaker than action figures. Then based on what I've read from the company themselves, they currently have several series of figures in production at once, plus a ring with another figure for that. Then you've got each step of the creation process, and I'd guess ROH has final approval over each step before moving on to the next one. I can't recall any brand new toy line that was announced, made from scratch, had each piece approved, and put up for sale in six months. I just think there is a lot of impatience in the collector community (which is not always a bad thing). It also seems that the toy company is not stopping with ROH, as they posted elsewhere that they were working on other wrestling figures as well.
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Post by micco on Apr 29, 2015 14:14:52 GMT -5
As a collector, I'm pretty eager for this line to be released. What your thoughts are, micco, just equate to bad business. Why should a company hold announcing a business arrangement until prototypes for action figures are available? The action figures are generating a lot of interest and talk, but their deal was not solely for action figures. Prototype shots are not something FTC has to give us either, it's a courtesy, not a requirement. Correspondence and courtesy is something they should be incredible at if they want us to spend top dollar on old molds. I'm not disagreeing with you that they don't have to do anything for us, but if they were being smart from a business perspective they should wait to announce anything about the toys until you have something more concrete, ie prototypes or at least confirmation of a lineup. What they have said and are doing now is not doing them any favors. I sincerely doubt these will end up anywhere in retail so preparing the 'hardcore consumer' for their products is all they have to generate interest. No pre-orders available and no information after months of anticipation is only going to kill interest for their base Amen!
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