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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 29, 2015 10:01:57 GMT -5
But isnt Daniel Bryan Already A Top Guy? There's only a handful of people that can say they defeated John Cena and also HHH,Randy Orton and Batista especially in one night. He already had his big Moment its time for him to lay back a little and just have small feuds until its time again. As far as the rumble goes maybe but he shouldn't have won the rumble anyways.I honestly don't know what they can do with daniel bryan but he definitely shouldn't main event wm this year. See, I don't get why he "definitely shouldn't main event wm this year". Is it that Vince McMahon "going to the well too many times" theory? Why should the most popular guy in the company, BY A MILE, be in small feuds? Who in their right mind would think that? Again, this is not me being against Roman, but me wondering why people are so against seen Bryan in the main event. So what if we saw it last year? The most over guy in the company can do it multiple times. Austin, Cena, Rock, etc. Granted, Bryan isn't the draw that they are (which I'm sure will get pointed out 576 times in this thread), but he shouldn't be in a throwaway, small feud. That's what made his Rumble elimination so frustrating. There was no set up for something in the future, he was tossed like an afterthought. Bad move.
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Post by J12 on Jan 29, 2015 11:01:24 GMT -5
If he wasn't going to win, then, yes, yes, he should have been held.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 11:02:41 GMT -5
But isnt Daniel Bryan Already A Top Guy? There's only a handful of people that can say they defeated John Cena and also HHH,Randy Orton and Batista especially in one night. He already had his big Moment its time for him to lay back a little and just have small feuds until its time again. As far as the rumble goes maybe but he shouldn't have won the rumble anyways.I honestly don't know what they can do with daniel bryan but he definitely shouldn't main event wm this year. See, I don't get why he "definitely shouldn't main event wm this year". Is it that Vince McMahon "going to the well too many times" theory? Why should the most popular guy in the company, BY A MILE, be in small feuds? Who in their right mind would think that? Again, this is not me being against Roman, but me wondering why people are so against seen Bryan in the main event. So what if we saw it last year? The most over guy in the company can do it multiple times. Austin, Cena, Rock, etc. Granted, Bryan isn't the draw that they are (which I'm sure will get pointed out 576 times in this thread), but he shouldn't be in a throwaway, small feud. That's what made his Rumble elimination so frustrating. There was no set up for something in the future, he was tossed like an afterthought. Bad move. John cena is indeed the most popular superstar on the roster regardless of how many people boo him or the constant Yes Chants Cena Draws Much More because hes John Cena A Global Icon of Wrestling at this point he is the Face of WWE if anything he should be main eventing all the PPVs but he doesn't if John Cena can work smaller feuds and not main event WM then so could Daniel Bryan.I dont care about the constant Yes Chants he gets anymore he had his moment last year WWE pretty much Gave Everyone what they wanted last year and I don't want to see a replay of that this year.I understand his injuries got in the way(And I'm saying this with all the respect to bryan)but oh well he pretty much is now at that back of the line and now it looks like roman reigns is getting his chance. We can't constantly keep giving Bryan the pitty speech "He Never Got a chance", "He Got Injured,so he needs another title run".You snooze you lose.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 29, 2015 11:25:43 GMT -5
See, I don't get why he "definitely shouldn't main event wm this year". Is it that Vince McMahon "going to the well too many times" theory? Why should the most popular guy in the company, BY A MILE, be in small feuds? Who in their right mind would think that? Again, this is not me being against Roman, but me wondering why people are so against seen Bryan in the main event. So what if we saw it last year? The most over guy in the company can do it multiple times. Austin, Cena, Rock, etc. Granted, Bryan isn't the draw that they are (which I'm sure will get pointed out 576 times in this thread), but he shouldn't be in a throwaway, small feud. That's what made his Rumble elimination so frustrating. There was no set up for something in the future, he was tossed like an afterthought. Bad move. John cena is indeed the most popular superstar on the roster regardless of how many people boo him or the constant Yes Chants Cena Draws Much More because hes John Cena A Global Icon of Wrestling at this point he is the Face of WWE if anything he should be main eventing all the PPVs but he doesn't if John Cena can work smaller feuds and not main event WM then so could Daniel Bryan.I dont care about the constant Yes Chants he gets anymore he had his moment last year WWE pretty much Gave Everyone what they wanted last year and I don't want to see a replay of that this year.I understand his injuries got in the way(And I'm saying this with all the respect to bryan)but oh well he pretty much is now at that back of the line and now it looks like roman reigns is getting his chance. We can't constantly keep giving Bryan the pitty speech "He Never Got a chance", "He Got Injured,so he needs another title run".You snooze you lose. See, that's a ridiculous standpoint. So because he got one title run, and never lost the belt, he should not get another chance. It's not "constantly" doing it. It's twice. Why would Bryan go to the back of the line? It's this stance that's crazy to me. But whatever, you've shown that you aren't changing your stance so this is moot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 11:40:07 GMT -5
John cena is indeed the most popular superstar on the roster regardless of how many people boo him or the constant Yes Chants Cena Draws Much More because hes John Cena A Global Icon of Wrestling at this point he is the Face of WWE if anything he should be main eventing all the PPVs but he doesn't if John Cena can work smaller feuds and not main event WM then so could Daniel Bryan.I dont care about the constant Yes Chants he gets anymore he had his moment last year WWE pretty much Gave Everyone what they wanted last year and I don't want to see a replay of that this year.I understand his injuries got in the way(And I'm saying this with all the respect to bryan)but oh well he pretty much is now at that back of the line and now it looks like roman reigns is getting his chance. We can't constantly keep giving Bryan the pitty speech "He Never Got a chance", "He Got Injured,so he needs another title run".You snooze you lose. See, that's a ridiculous standpoint. So because he got one title run, and never lost the belt, he should not get another chance. It's not "constantly" doing it. It's twice. Why would Bryan go to the back of the line? It's this stance that's crazy to me. But whatever, you've shown that you aren't changing your stance so this is moot. It's not that I don't think he deserves to be champion again I just dont think it should happen at WM.When The Time is right and the fued is there then give him the belt but he just came back from an injury he needs more time before he becomes champion again.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Jan 29, 2015 11:46:16 GMT -5
I don't see Daniel Bryan winning the Royal Rumble. If he were going to win it, he would have returned then with no announcement - I feel. Because in that scenario, they wouldn't allow the backlash to happen once again. However, with this, we can have his small build and once he gets screwed over, it won't be as bad as it would be if he returned at that event just to lose. lolReignswins. This was what I originally said about him coming back early. Man, was I ing wrong about how ugly this would get. I do think, however, they should have waited to have him come back or done a better job of working him in the Rumble.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 29, 2015 12:08:39 GMT -5
It's easy to say Bryan should have been held off, but the Rumble needed two potential winners. It couldn't just be Reigns. Perhaps they should have promoted a Daniel Bryan promo at the Rumble, where he could come down and say he's a few weeks away from being cleared and he'd be wrestling at Fast Lane. I'm tired of all this "Daniel Bryan had his moment" crap. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the next Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin on our hands when it comes to crowd reaction. Nope. Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin got pops from people who had never been to wrestling shows before but bought tickets to see those guys. Daniel Bryan gets pops from people who would have bought tickets anyway to go and boo Cena. There's a key difference there. Bryan doesn't draw money. Hogan and Austin (and Rock and Cena) did/do. Hell, Punk never drew money, but he at least sold t-shirts. Bryan hasn't even done that yet. DB's great, but he's not the man who can take over from Cena. Reigns might not be either, time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 12:58:18 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what some of you people want WWE to do with Daniel Bryan that they haven't done already they gave him his big Moment at WM he's got a ton merchandise you can buy he's done it all.Why should he get another big Moment now at WM again?.I just Don't feel like he deserves this one again.
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Post by Himmy! on Jan 29, 2015 15:09:13 GMT -5
I think they should have, I really do. The night after the Rumble would have been good (weather permitting ).
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 29, 2015 16:38:16 GMT -5
As soon as Bryan announced that he was in the Rumble my heart sank. It's been obvious for months that Reigns was going to win the Rumble and WWE should've known that he would get booed if Bryan didn't win.
its Batista all over again.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 29, 2015 16:50:16 GMT -5
I agree, they should have waited until after the Rumble if their plan was for Reigns to win. Maybe the Rumble wouldn't have had as much backlash as they did if Bryan wasn't in it. I would have saved it until the night (or week after) the Rumble for his return, have a feud with someone not named Big Show and Kane from the Authority for Wrestlemania, and then have a storyline similar to what Sami Zayn did on NXT where he goes on a road to regaining the WWE Title and the Authority gets in his way until either Summerslam or Mania where he wins back the WWE World Title and hopefully would have gotten injured and have a decent run (if they waited til Mania, a title run until Summerslam would have been good enough IMO)
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Post by tg11 on Jan 31, 2015 13:39:42 GMT -5
No I would have brought Bryan back at either Fast Lane PPV or the night after Fast Lane because by bringing him back this late the fans then would know ahead of time that Bryan wouldn't be in the Rumble match and they wouldn't have booed as badly as they did at the Royal Rumble PPV
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 31, 2015 16:50:04 GMT -5
They could of used Fast Lane to bring him back. Make the announcement that he was just cleared that week & move forward. People would have still groaned about Reigns, but not to this level.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jan 31, 2015 18:45:17 GMT -5
They probably should have waited. The audience would still crap on Reigns winning, but as soon as Daniel Bryan was eliminated, they turned on the match. Had that not happened, they probably would not have turned until Ziggler and Wyatt were eliminated in such an awful manner.
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Post by King of Kings on Jan 31, 2015 18:52:34 GMT -5
No, it shouldn't have been after the Rumble. Because they basically lose no matter what:
1. The way they're going right now, Bryan eliminated in the Rumble and doing a nonsense match at Wrestlemania (unless it somehow becomes a number one contender's match but I doubt it)
2. If he returned AT the Royal Rumble, he'd be expected to win which he wouldn't, so it's a disappointment.
3. If he didn't return at the Royal Rumble everyone would be disappointed and expecting him and they're still not going to do anything major with him at Wrestlemania.
I'm not a huge Daniel Bryan fan but it doesn't make sense to me that the most over guy in the company isn't being given the push. I know they wanna build around Roman too, and I don't mind that, let the guy be himself and he'll flourish. BUT, Daniel Bryan had an entire arena, at Wrestlemania XXX, on their feet screaming. How are you going to drop that and seemingly let Daniel Bryan fall to the mid-card? Foolish writing man...it's a damn shame. Go check out Lucha Underground !
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Post by rustyy on Jan 31, 2015 18:55:19 GMT -5
Had he come back the Raw after the Rumble then maybe "DA LOOK'S" backlash wouldn't have been so bad. I don't know why they brought him back just to have him be eliminated mid rumble and no possible feud in sight. They're proving weekly, they just don't care. About the fans or money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:07:36 GMT -5
I think bringing him back before the Rumble was fine, but if he wasn't going to win then hid loss could have had more storyline potential.
Like, if the final 4 were Bryan, Reigns, Wyatt, and like Ruse, Ambrose, or Ziggler, then that would have really said: these are our top guys going forward. This Rumble was very competitive. Your favorite is still considered a part of the upper echelon.
Or if his elimination lead to a story that was equally as satisfying as a potential win would have been. Like Ziggler and Brysn were 1 and 2. They stayed in it until the end. Then they eliminate each other leaving the number 30 entrant, Reigns, left. All Reigns would have to do is walk out and win and he goes to Mania.
That would have set Ziggler and Bryan up to wrestle at Mania, and it would have positioned Reigns to be the guy handed the championship.
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Post by el torro on Jan 31, 2015 20:24:02 GMT -5
I would think if he hadn't returned before, everyone would expect him to that night. And then #30 would have came in, no Bryan and everyone knows Reigns winning again. It'd probably be the same reaction, maybe mote boo's.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jan 31, 2015 20:27:41 GMT -5
I'm confused with the whole "Bryan doesn't draw" argument. So he doesn't draw as much as Austin or Hogan did---does Reigns? WILL Reigns, for that matter? Wrestling's a different beast than it was 10, 20 years ago. Numbers need to be put into perspective in this day and age.
Still clueless over the thought of bringing him back. He comes in, does nothing and gets eliminated like nothing...it reminded me of HBK in 2010 except Michaels' elimination was toward the end of the match and there were PLENTY of guys in that Rumble that could have feasibly won. Here it was just kinda "well he's not the guy to win so let's get his elimination outta the way" and there was only one other guy in the match that was gonna win. I'm more pissed at that--that essentially the whole match was crafted around Reigns looking formidable enough to challenge Lesnar (single-handedly conquering Kane and Big Show, stopping Rusev from sneaking away with a win), all while "establishing" him by him sharing a ring with Rock--and the fact Bryan was shoved into the backburner because of it.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 31, 2015 21:11:30 GMT -5
That definitely would have been the most logical thing to do...
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