PudgieTheSheep
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Post by PudgieTheSheep on Jan 29, 2015 10:45:06 GMT -5
I don't there is anyway to compare Cena merchandise to Daniel Bryan merchandise. How much crap can you possibly sell for Daniel Bran? He has a t-shirt, the fake beard, and the foam YES Fingers......Unless Daniel Bryan starts wearing hats, wrist bands, arm bands, tog tags, towels, a jacket, gloves..... The reason John Cena sells so much merchandise is because he HAS so much merchandise and the only reason he HAS so much merchandise is because he wears so much on the way to the ring. It's authentic. Kids have to have every piece of it. A kid can't have the hat without the shirt and the bands and the towel....it's almost like a package deal. People are buying the Daniel Bryan shirt, it's just there aren't 9 things that go along with it like with Cena's shirts. That is an excellent point! Not only is there 132 items for D-Bry's 33, but Cena is top of the superstar list and has a main advert on the page. Is it any wonder the kids are only idolising one guy? It's shocking that they would want one single guy to stand out so much against what should be his peers.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 29, 2015 12:04:09 GMT -5
Make Ziggler vs Bryan for the number 1 contender. That'll make sense story wise and should make fans happy.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 29, 2015 12:24:26 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ziggler sounds like an awful plan. What's the story behind it? "Let's go out there and steal the show with workrate so guys on Reddit are happy with us"? That's not a WrestleMania thing. That's a Raw match, or maybe third from the top at one of the Armajudgmelashwayoutlimit level shows. Bryan should be doing something more substantial at Mania than this. If they do come up with an actual storyline for it though, I'm up for it, they can deliver in the ring. Just no interest in them delivering what's basically an empty package. I don't there is anyway to compare Cena merchandise to Daniel Bryan merchandise. How much crap can you possibly sell for Daniel Bran? He has a t-shirt, the fake beard, and the foam YES Fingers......Unless Daniel Bryan starts wearing hats, wrist bands, arm bands, tog tags, towels, a jacket, gloves..... Nonsensical excuses. Daniel Bryan isn't selling merchandise to top guy standard. CM Punk as a babyface didn't have so much of his act built on a big beard or hand sign, and yet he sold vastly more merchandise than Daniel Bryan does. You've got that the wrong way round.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Jan 29, 2015 12:40:10 GMT -5
Ziggler vs Bryan is just a way to get the crowd off WWEs back IMO. They know Ziggler and Bryan are the two undisputed favourites of most of the IWC and both men are always well supported in the arenas, especially at PPVs. Not sure if theyll get enough time to steal the show. It'll probably open the show to kill the Bryan hype early. WWE know what a draw he is, but they think they can create their own draw because they did it with Cena. In my opinion, it's bad business. The Cena project lost WWE a lot of fans in the UK and US and their numbers went down slowly. The same will happen if they continue to ignore the fans the way they are insisting on doing this year. WE'RE NOT GIVING IN TO THOSE CRYBABY SMART FANS DAMNiT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 13:09:00 GMT -5
I mean the match would steal the show, but it really would be a spit in the face to both of them by having a meaningless match. Just because in the eyes of the man, they dont measure up.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 29, 2015 13:21:51 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ziggler sounds like an awful plan. What's the story behind it? "Let's go out there and steal the show with workrate so guys on Reddit are happy with us"? That's not a WrestleMania thing. That's a Raw match, or maybe third from the top at one of the Armajudgmelashwayoutlimit level shows. Bryan should be doing something more substantial at Mania than this. If they do come up with an actual storyline for it though, I'm up for it, they can deliver in the ring. Just no interest in them delivering what's basically an empty package. I don't there is anyway to compare Cena merchandise to Daniel Bryan merchandise. How much crap can you possibly sell for Daniel Bran? He has a t-shirt, the fake beard, and the foam YES Fingers......Unless Daniel Bryan starts wearing hats, wrist bands, arm bands, tog tags, towels, a jacket, gloves..... Nonsensical excuses. Daniel Bryan isn't selling merchandise to top guy standard. CM Punk as a babyface didn't have so much of his act built on a big beard or hand sign, and yet he sold vastly more merchandise than Daniel Bryan does. You've got that the wrong way round. Really? Because on WWEShop, John Cena has a crap tone of stuff that he actually WEARS ON THE SHOW....and Daniel Bryan has one shirt that he wears and then a santa hat, a candy cane, a christmas stocking, a dog collar, a dog leash, slippers, moccasins,.......he's got some cool sweatshirts and one pair of wristbands,....but I don't believe he's ever worn those items on TV. So why would anyone buy those items?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 29, 2015 13:35:41 GMT -5
Really? Because on WWEShop, John Cena has a crap tone of stuff that he actually WEARS ON THE SHOW....and Daniel Bryan has one shirt that he wears and then a santa hat, a candy cane, a christmas stocking, a dog collar, a dog leash, slippers, moccasins,.......he's got some cool sweatshirts and one pair of wristbands,....but I don't believe he's ever worn those items on TV. So why would anyone buy those items? The same reason people would buy Stone Cold Steve Austin condoms even though (as far as we know) he never wore them on TV -- because if a guy's over, they can sell crap with their name on it. Daniel Bryan has worn his hoodies on TV: And the t-shirts he wears on TV have never outsold the t-shirts John Cena wears on TV anyway, or come close. They haven't even come close to what CM Punk shirts sold. It's fine to like a wrestler without making foundless excuses for why he doesn't sell merchandise at a top guy level.
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Post by Chip on Jan 29, 2015 14:10:47 GMT -5
I'd like for them to have a reason to fight other than stealing the show. I would like to see them fighting for the #1 contender spot. Give two guys who are friends a reason to go all out against each other. Plus, it's a bone to all of the fans of both guys that are upset they aren't in the WM main event. BAM Money. Bryan vs. Ziggler set up by the Authority (since both are face's) for the #1 Contender to the WWE Championship. Both guys have a reason for being on the card. The match/story makes sense. It can be built fairly quick but fun. Win/Win. I hope this happens.
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Post by Himmy! on Jan 29, 2015 15:06:32 GMT -5
Potential to be a show stealer for sure.
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Post by T R W on Jan 29, 2015 15:24:50 GMT -5
I'd like for them to have a reason to fight other than stealing the show. I would like to see them fighting for the #1 contender spot. Give two guys who are friends a reason to go all out against each other. Plus, it's a bone to all of the fans of both guys that are upset they aren't in the WM main event. BAM Money. Bryan vs. Ziggler set up by the Authority (since both are face's) for the #1 Contender to the WWE Championship. Both guys have a reason for being on the card. The match/story makes sense. It can be built fairly quick but fun. Win/Win. I hope this happens. Agreed. And it would be easy for the authority to have incentive to do it. Have Bryan and Ziggler buddying up and working against the Authority. Maybe tagging against Kane and Big Show, or whatever. Authority starts to try and drive a wedge between them. Make them not trust each other. Eventually says he is going to give them both an opportunity to have a World Title shot. But they will have to go through each other and tear each other apart to get it. Makes the fans happy, and it's a pretty solid and entertaining story idea. So naturally that won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 15:26:25 GMT -5
That would be perfect! However, the battle royal should be a 31 Diva Battle Royal for Divas Title
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 29, 2015 16:27:43 GMT -5
It would be an awesome match but they'd probably spoil it by making one of them heel. Just let them have an epic 20mins match then they both shake hands at the end and soak in the crowds reaction. I love Dolph, but I think he works much better as a heel. And Bryan is the biggest face in the company. So they could just have Dolph get cockier and cockier and finally turn heel again and fight Bryan at Mania. It would be great. I think have them both face would diminish some of the enthusiasm, though it has worked in the past, like at WM6. But I still think Dolph should be a cocky heel.
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crookedterror
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Post by crookedterror on Jan 29, 2015 18:34:55 GMT -5
I would personally love to see Bryan/Ziggler as the lead match of the night at Wrestlemania. I just wish that The Authority would get lost from TV because having a heel authority group is incredibly limiting to angles. What would they say? "We hate both of you, the fans love both of you, so just fight it out at the bottom of the card." If an authority type figure needs to be on TV, have them be a face so that matches like this can be made easily without having to go through some sort of absurd maze of foolishness to make it happen (i.e. Bryan having to beat HHH first in order to get the WM XXX main event).
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jan 29, 2015 20:12:09 GMT -5
I'd like for them to have a reason to fight other than stealing the show. I would like to see them fighting for the #1 contender spot. Give two guys who are friends a reason to go all out against each other. Plus, it's a bone to all of the fans of both guys that are upset they aren't in the WM main event. BAM Money. Bryan vs. Ziggler set up by the Authority (since both are face's) for the #1 Contender to the WWE Championship. Both guys have a reason for being on the card. The match/story makes sense. It can be built fairly quick but fun. Win/Win. I hope this happens. How would you book it so the authority ok the #1 contendership? It would seem like a gift to two people they don't want to succeed. I like the idea, I'm curious to see how people would go about doing it though. Personally I always preferred Ziggler as a heel, I think he works a lot better that way and yo turn against Bryan should give him a better chance of being booed as one.
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Post by Chip on Jan 29, 2015 20:35:29 GMT -5
because their goal is to have them destroy each other. you have to put stakes on the match for them to want to go through hell to get it.
if they are going the Sting vs HHH route you could have HHH set up sabotage matches for both guys but Sting helps them win so they end up fighting for the #1. Like say put Bryan vs Kane & Show...Ziggler vs Bray....but Sting helps. Then both guys have to fight for #1, Trips is pissed but he starts trying to turn either Bryan or Ziggler on one another, offering Bryan help to win the match...there's a hundred ways they could go with it.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jan 29, 2015 21:02:01 GMT -5
I'm not super psyched about this. A good story would be nice, but I don't have faith in the writing team to create anything. At the risk of being that guy, I can't get over the feeling that they are really squandering yet another awesome story that writes itself: Bryan returns after a career ending injury, wins the Rumble, and beats Lesnar. Obviously they don't want to go that route, and thats fine, but you can't deny that someone as over as he is, and coming off of a possible career ending injury just in time for a Wrestlemania storyline shouldn't just be buried in a non-featured role. At this rate he is below Lesnar/Reigns (obviously), HHH/Sting, Cena/Rusev (which isn't even main event caliber), and potentially whatever Undertaker does, if anything.
I actually thought it would've been cool if the Bryan/Kane casket match had led to a match with Taker at Wrestlemania (Bryan is about to put Kane in the casket, Taker sits up, and they double team Bryan, leading to a Kane win), but that might not have worked as well with Kane in the Authority.
I get it, they aren't going with him in the Main Event. I do think he deserves better than some thrown together match that won't mean anything however.
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BIGMAC2570
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Post by BIGMAC2570 on Jan 29, 2015 21:12:24 GMT -5
They are really reaching this close to WM.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:16:12 GMT -5
Not bad, but need more of a reason than just 'cos of Twitter...
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Post by Brad on Jan 29, 2015 22:56:46 GMT -5
I said I'd love to see this match (and I wouldn't complain over it) but it just recently hit me I'd rather see Daniel Vs. Rollins with the money in the bank contract on the line.
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Post by Dan on Jan 30, 2015 13:34:03 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler would only annoy me more. It's just the WWE's way of going 'here you go, this will shut them up for a bit'. Just look at the bigger picture, what would this even do for either of them, besides have a good 20 minute Match. It means one of them would have to go heel which would do them a hell of a lot more bad than good, and if not, then what would the Match even be about or for? Two guys just wrestling for the sake of wrestling? Oh right.
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