havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Dec 18, 2014 14:47:35 GMT -5
It's only ridiculous because you're looking at what was ultimately discovered. I'm assuming that had the Canadian Who Shall Not Be Named never committed his atrocious acts, you'd be lauding his career. Instead, fans talk of it as "No one would have ever guessed he'd be like that" or "that's not the man I knew. Who knew he hid something so devious?" Same applies here. You don't have to be a pedophile or a murderer or whatever an eragged man is. You can still be a bad person and do good things to mask that. His argument that Cena does one good thing so he must be a good person is a farce. If Cena is going around getting people fired or punished, then he is obviously masking his reputation by performing things that WWE requires him to do. If you think you have to be a murderer or a psychopath to be a bad person, then you see the world in black and white instead of the many shades of gray that exist. I find it comical that the only counter to my point is to dismiss it with an ad hominem attack and straw man argument, which are fallacies, and claim they are ridiculous. But, yet, no one offers a counter point to my point that one good deed does not define a character. Basically though, if we wish to dissect your argument, you're under the belief that there are inherently evil human beings out there who are doing evil things all the time and masking their behavior. How then can you say that Cena is an inherently good person? How do you know he is not masking his behavior? You don't. In years, it may be revealed that he is Mr. Nice Guy who wouldn't hurt a fly, or it may be revealed that he cheated on his girlfriends and was responsible some heinous acts. The point is, you have the luxury of looking at the acts of Sandusky in light of his atrocious acts, so of course you can say its a mask. Here, we have nothing to go on. Yet, people want to hang their hats on the argument that with all the good he does, he cannot be the man we hear about behind the scenes. But of course, you're welcome to dismiss this as ramblings, mostly because you're response--cogent as it was--was akin to "You are an idiot. Cena is God." Oh I like him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 15:00:09 GMT -5
Umm... No. Five knuckle shuffle is slang for masturbating. Google it. Actually, don't. Actually, google it at your own discretion. Hahaha so Powerbomb and Piledriver should be changed for PG then too right? No because those were the names of wrestling moves before they were ever sexual. Damn Chyna had to go and ruin everything.
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WMDman
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Post by WMDman on Dec 18, 2014 15:54:02 GMT -5
meh, i feel its a tad exaggerated
-WMD
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 18, 2014 15:55:34 GMT -5
Hahaha so Powerbomb and Piledriver should be changed for PG then too right? No because those were the names of wrestling moves before they were ever sexual. Damn Chyna had to go and ruin everything. I think 5 Knuckle Shuffle is fine. Sure, its slang for sonething else, but that involves research. FU is blunt, and understandable. However, look at other moves. Val Venis had The Money Shot. Rilkishi had The Stink Face, X Pac with The Bronko Buster, Beth Phenoix / Awesome Kong with the Implant Buster. Let's dive deeper, with female chops, groin shots, ass slaps, Diva Attire. There will always be a line that may have been crossed 18 years ago, but not now. When it is, its subliminal. WWE does an excellent job at that. Although its rated PG, they can still entertain older audiences. Just look at NXT. Which is where my main focus has been for 8 months.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 18, 2014 16:05:22 GMT -5
Everybody thinks Cena is such a stand up guy but he couldn't be more fake. You can tell just by his personality that he's fake. All that goodwill sh*t is just to make himself look good. He cheated on his wife for Christ's sake. And didn't she have cancer or something? Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Either way the guy's a major douche. Yes, he cheated on his wife. No, she didnt have cancer. That was Batista who cheated on his wife with cancer.
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Post by PWSPhil on Dec 18, 2014 17:22:01 GMT -5
I like how Reks acts as if the Burning Hammer is so different from the AA. The opponent lands on his chest instead of his back, no matter how Reks hit it it was gonna look similar.
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Post by CF9™ on Dec 18, 2014 17:57:42 GMT -5
Sounds like bullcrap.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 18, 2014 19:09:42 GMT -5
I like how Reks acts as if the Burning Hammer is so different from the AA. The opponent lands on his chest instead of his back, no matter how Reks hit it it was gonna look similar. Not in the Indy's/Japan. Burning Hammer is an inverted AA/standing firemans carry into a brainbuster.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 19, 2014 5:02:50 GMT -5
John Cena is a dick.
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Post by Himmy! on Dec 19, 2014 6:54:40 GMT -5
Hardly surprising.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 8:51:41 GMT -5
I've never thought much of Cena anyway. Meh.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 19, 2014 9:25:19 GMT -5
Cena keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into the fake hole. How many stories like this are going to pop up? He treats people like ing garbage and puts on a fake smile to take pictures with sick kids. I wish Kenta Kobashi could wrestle Cena, just so he could drop him on his stupid flat head and give Cena a real reason to hate the Burning Hammer.
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Post by Infinite on Dec 19, 2014 9:38:33 GMT -5
Everybody thinks Cena is such a stand up guy but he couldn't be more fake. You can tell just by his personality that he's fake. All that goodwill sh*t is just to make himself look good. He cheated on his wife for Christ's sake. And didn't she have cancer or something? Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Either way the guy's a major douche. Yes, he cheated on his wife. No, she didnt have cancer. That was Batista who cheated on his wife with cancer. I thought the Batista thing was just a rumor too?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 20, 2014 0:16:22 GMT -5
Yes, he cheated on his wife. No, she didnt have cancer. That was Batista who cheated on his wife with cancer. I thought the Batista thing was just a rumor too? That was in Batista's book.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 12:56:27 GMT -5
Most wrestlers don't pretend to be the nicest guy on the planet, matter of fact most of them are self admitted bungholes. Some people just don't get on. If we heard Cena's side of the story, Reks may have done something to really piss him off that he isn't even aware of. Do we know this even happened? We only have Reks' word for it. Most people say that Cena is a nice guy, and with all the work he puts in to greeting sick and dying children, he's obviously a good guy. It takes a special kind of person to have that kind of dedication, to be enthusiastic, and to love working with those terminally ill kids. But he's human like the rest of us, we all have bad days, we all have people we can't stand and we all get pissed off. Such is life. Cena should not be condemned for making mistakes or for shouting at one guy, one time. I don't doubt his heart being in the right place, or that he is a nice guy....but the charitable moments are part of his gig (prob written into his contract); either way, he has an image to maintain & Vince 'expects' it of him...the public expects it of him
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 12:58:18 GMT -5
Everybody thinks Cena is such a stand up guy but he couldn't be more fake. You can tell just by his personality that he's fake. All that goodwill sh*t is just to make himself look good. He cheated on his wife for Christ's sake. And didn't she have cancer or something? Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Either way the guy's a major douche. Yes, he cheated on his wife. No, she didnt have cancer. That was Batista who cheated on his wife with cancer. To be fair, Batista prob also cheated on her when she didn't have cancer lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 13:17:28 GMT -5
Bu... Bu... Bu! But everyone loves meeeeeee
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 4:34:42 GMT -5
To the people saying "Cena is so fake, they make him out to be this nice guy but he's such a fraud" or along those general lines
You're basing his niceness off the way he comes across on TV, you're saying that because you've heard that he isn't as nice outside the ring as he is on TV, that he's a fraud?
That's like saying The Undertaker is a fake ass fraud because he isn't actually a deadman...
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 21, 2014 4:40:50 GMT -5
Cena keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into the fake hole. How many stories like this are going to pop up? He treats people like ing garbage and puts on a fake smile to take pictures with sick kids. Lol. "Who cares if he makes sick kids happy? He told a bitter lower card guy to get a new finisher! What an evil monster he is!" Takes a pretty sick kid to write wishes of wrestlers getting dropped on their heads.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 10:10:55 GMT -5
To the people saying "Cena is so fake, they make him out to be this nice guy but he's such a fraud" or along those general lines You're basing his niceness off the way he comes across on TV, you're saying that because you've heard that he isn't as nice outside the ring as he is on TV, that he's a fraud? That's like saying The Undertaker is a fake ass fraud because he isn't actually a deadman... KANE ISNT BURNED OMG HE IS A FRAUD
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