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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Dec 16, 2014 10:37:30 GMT -5
Would definitely buy. The history of wrestling runs deep. The attitude era wasn't the only thing that ever happened to wrestling. Have you seen the recent line-ups since E28? Hogan DM and several basics Razor JYD Flair DM and basic Roberts 2-pack Vader LOD Luger Andre Crush RSC Michaels Steamboat Camo Sarge SS 90 Warrior
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 10:44:42 GMT -5
One message board about wrestling figures where even half the guys wouldn't buy it makes a terrible business decision for Mattel. The ten of you should get together and have customs made. Mattel isn't obligated due to wrestling history to make every champ. WWE themselves would likely not agree with including him even.
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Post by JC Motors on Dec 16, 2014 10:45:57 GMT -5
I would buy a Gorgeous George figure instantly
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Post by RV F'N D on Dec 16, 2014 10:48:40 GMT -5
My grandfather would love one, but hard for me to get excited about it, as he was way before my time, just like Bruno . I won't argue against new faces in the line though, even if it's one that doesn't really fit my collection well. Including the old belt would be a good selling point for any of these really old school guys.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2014 11:04:44 GMT -5
One message board about wrestling figures where even half the guys wouldn't buy it makes a terrible business decision for Mattel. The ten of you should get together and have customs made. Mattel isn't obligated due to wrestling history to make every champ. WWE themselves would likely not agree with including him even. Just like no one would buy Bruno, Arn, and Tully? And considering how much Vince himself loves Buddy Rogers, I'd disagree with that last line too.
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 11:12:00 GMT -5
One message board about wrestling figures where even half the guys wouldn't buy it makes a terrible business decision for Mattel. The ten of you should get together and have customs made. Mattel isn't obligated due to wrestling history to make every champ. WWE themselves would likely not agree with including him even. Just like no one would buy Bruno, Arn, and Tully? And considering how much Vince himself loves Buddy Rogers, I'd disagree with that last line too. Bruno was relevant on TV at the time due to the hall of fame. How many more Arns and Tullys has Mattel made? Or any others from that timeframe? Might the reason be they didn't sell? Vince loves money more than he loves Buddy Rogers. There is zero arguments justifying this as a smart business decision. But you just want what you want so facts be damned.
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Post by xralphiex on Dec 16, 2014 11:19:52 GMT -5
Let's also throw in the fact that the only reason Tully and Arn sold was the fact they came with the only old style Tag Team Titles....
Buddy Rodgers in a two pack would automatically make him every kids jobber. There is no connection in today's WWE... He's not showcased like Bruno was. He isn't as important as Bruno was and most likely we won't have one made.
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 11:22:40 GMT -5
Let's also throw in the fact that the only reason Tully and Arn sold was the fact they came with the only old style Tag Team Titles.... Buddy Rodgers in a two pack would automatically make him every kids jobber. There is no connection in today's WWE... He's not showcased like Bruno was. He isn't as important as Bruno was and most likely we won't have one made. Look! A reasonable person!
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 16, 2014 12:41:05 GMT -5
Let's also throw in the fact that the only reason Tully and Arn sold was the fact they came with the only old style Tag Team Titles.... Buddy Rodgers in a two pack would automatically make him every kids jobber. There is no connection in today's WWE... He's not showcased like Bruno was. He isn't as important as Bruno was and most likely we won't have one made. Sure feel free to buy me an arn or tully WITHOUT the tag title for under $60....Ive been looking for one.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2014 14:01:17 GMT -5
Let's also throw in the fact that the only reason Tully and Arn sold was the fact they came with the only old style Tag Team Titles.... Buddy Rodgers in a two pack would automatically make him every kids jobber. There is no connection in today's WWE... He's not showcased like Bruno was. He isn't as important as Bruno was and most likely we won't have one made. Sure feel free to buy me an arn or tully WITHOUT the tag title for under $60....Ive been looking for one. Ding ding ding ding!! The line needs more than just ing Razor Ramon and Ultimate Warrior repaints. Of course judging by the WWEs current product, I guess Mattel needs to cater to the idiot general public who just want Malibu Stacy with a new goddamn hat. Heaven forbid they do something outside of their comfort zone. Glad to see that so many people here work for Mattel and have sales figures. I can at least point to eBay and MattyCollector to back me up, I'm not just pulling things out of my ass for the sake of being contrarian. I'm not saying to make someone like him packed 3 per case and shove him down everyone's ing throats. But if it's a special collectors item made in limited amounts, then everyone will still get their 500th Macho Man and Big Show figures.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2014 14:24:33 GMT -5
By the way, Mattel already said that Bruno's Hall if Fane induction was purely good timing, as they already had him signed and were going to make a figure of him regardless.
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 16:08:11 GMT -5
Sure feel free to buy me an arn or tully WITHOUT the tag title for under $60....Ive been looking for one. Ding ding ding ding!! The line needs more than just ing Razor Ramon and Ultimate Warrior repaints. Of course judging by the WWEs current product, I guess Mattel needs to cater to the idiot general public who just want Malibu Stacy with a new goddamn hat. Heaven forbid they do something outside of their comfort zone. Glad to see that so many people here work for Mattel and have sales figures. I can at least point to eBay and MattyCollector to back me up, I'm not just pulling things out of my ass for the sake of being contrarian. I'm not saying to make someone like him packed 3 per case and shove him down everyone's ing throats. But if it's a special collectors item made in limited amounts, then everyone will still get their 500th Macho Man and Big Show figures. Ebay sales and MattyCollector sales? Those are your sources? Mattel makes nothing off of secondary sales obviously and what they were doing in MattyCollector is exactly what you suggest. A smaller run. Obviously that was a big success and they made a good profit because they completely stopped doing just that. There are not enough collectors like us to support Mattel making these guys. This is reality. Accept it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 16:12:58 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a way WCT could possibly buy the rights to make some of the 6 inch figures as long as they stick with obscure characters like this. I mean, they obviously worked something out with Mattel already to use the ESR mold. Could it be possible to work out a contract with Mattel where Mattel gets a certain cut of the profit and gives the ok for WCT to make certain characters? Probably not, but might be an option.
That way, maybe someday we could see some of those obscure characters we saw in the CS line by Jakks.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 16, 2014 16:18:43 GMT -5
Ding ding ding ding!! The line needs more than just ing Razor Ramon and Ultimate Warrior repaints. Of course judging by the WWEs current product, I guess Mattel needs to cater to the idiot general public who just want Malibu Stacy with a new goddamn hat. Heaven forbid they do something outside of their comfort zone. Glad to see that so many people here work for Mattel and have sales figures. I can at least point to eBay and MattyCollector to back me up, I'm not just pulling things out of my ass for the sake of being contrarian. I'm not saying to make someone like him packed 3 per case and shove him down everyone's ing throats. But if it's a special collectors item made in limited amounts, then everyone will still get their 500th Macho Man and Big Show figures. Ebay sales and MattyCollector sales? Those are your sources? Mattel makes nothing off of secondary sales obviously and what they were doing in MattyCollector is exactly what you suggest. A smaller run. Obviously that was a big success and they made a good profit because they completely stopped doing just that. There are not enough collectors like us to support Mattel making these guys. This is reality. Accept it. Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful.
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 16:23:49 GMT -5
Ebay sales and MattyCollector sales? Those are your sources? Mattel makes nothing off of secondary sales obviously and what they were doing in MattyCollector is exactly what you suggest. A smaller run. Obviously that was a big success and they made a good profit because they completely stopped doing just that. There are not enough collectors like us to support Mattel making these guys. This is reality. Accept it. Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful. So based on this thread they only need 4990 more people. Seems likely.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 16:24:18 GMT -5
Ebay sales and MattyCollector sales? Those are your sources? Mattel makes nothing off of secondary sales obviously and what they were doing in MattyCollector is exactly what you suggest. A smaller run. Obviously that was a big success and they made a good profit because they completely stopped doing just that. There are not enough collectors like us to support Mattel making these guys. This is reality. Accept it. Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful. I don't understand how producing less of a figure would change their profits. I mean, a figure like Buddy Rogers or Gorgeous George would obviously have to be made in a limited run for us collectors as we are the only people willing to buy these. As a collector, I would have ZERO problems dropping $50 for an elite of either of those characters. Obviously, the less there is produced is the higher the price point goes up. I'd think at $50 per figure, that would still make there % of profit to make it worth while. Plus, common sense tells you that once that run of the figure is bought up, the secondary market price is going to be insane for a figure like that which would probably tempt me to buy a 2nd just to tuck away for another day when I need some extra cash.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 16, 2014 16:30:15 GMT -5
Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful. I don't understand how producing less of a figure would change their profits. I mean, a figure like Buddy Rogers or Gorgeous George would obviously have to be made in a limited run for us collectors as we are the only people willing to buy these. As a collector, I would have ZERO problems dropping $50 for an elite of either of those characters. Obviously, the less there is produced is the higher the price point goes up. I'd think at $50 per figure, that would still make there % of profit to make it worth while. Plus, common sense tells you that once that run of the figure is bought up, the secondary market price is going to be insane for a figure like that which would probably tempt me to buy a 2nd just to tuck away for another day when I need some extra cash. No clue how the numbers work out but I remember previously in a thread where people were asking for 1/500 or 1/3000 type figures that Mattel said that its just not financially smart to produce a figure in less numbers then 5000. Ill take Mattel for their word over people's assumptions myself. Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful. So based on this thread they only need 4990 more people. Seems likely. Mattel has also stated that while they do listen to these forums as well as others, they dont go strictly by what online sites say. Therefore if they feel that Rogers would be financially worth it, they'll make it....if not...then they wont. Does Rogers deserve it? Absolutely...will it happen? Highly unlikely....but then again, half of the schmucks from the Attitude Era dont need to be made either. We can clearly see where Mattel is going with their ideas. They're making big name guys from different eras. With that being said, Rogers being a big name from the 60s is much more likely to be made then say Crash Holly or Bastion Booger who were pretty much irrelevant in their eras.
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Post by thedazzler on Dec 16, 2014 16:31:10 GMT -5
Mattel has not ever once stated that the figure released on Matty Collector where of smaller runs. No number has ever been given for any figure. The only thing Mattel has ever said is that any figure under 5000 produced isnt financially gainful. I don't understand how producing less of a figure would change their profits. I mean, a figure like Buddy Rogers or Gorgeous George would obviously have to be made in a limited run for us collectors as we are the only people willing to buy these. As a collector, I would have ZERO problems dropping $50 for an elite of either of those characters. Obviously, the less there is produced is the higher the price point goes up. I'd think at $50 per figure, that would still make there % of profit to make it worth while. Plus, common sense tells you that once that run of the figure is bought up, the secondary market price is going to be insane for a figure like that which would probably tempt me to buy a 2nd just to tuck away for another day when I need some extra cash. The problem is Mattel doesn't cater to collectors. There isn't even a ton of enthusiasm among the people on this board. If most of us wouldn't buy it why would they bother?
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Post by poindizzle on Dec 16, 2014 16:36:04 GMT -5
This was a hypothetical thread so I gave a hypothetical response that I would want a figure and would like more than three decades getting recognition. Doesn't mean it would happen, doesn't mean I think it would happen.
In fact, most people who responded probably realize it ain't happening. Why are some posters so diametrically opposed to the idea that they can't just say no, not interested, or no, probably won't happen?
Why has this become such a hateful thread?
Would I buy a Nature Boy Buddy Rogers? Yes.
Do I like other eras of wrestling and wish they got toy treatment? Yes.
Neither answer means I think it is going to happen or that it would be financially viable.
That's just my two cents. Everybody just keep on bickering if you'd like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 16:37:26 GMT -5
I don't understand how producing less of a figure would change their profits. I mean, a figure like Buddy Rogers or Gorgeous George would obviously have to be made in a limited run for us collectors as we are the only people willing to buy these. As a collector, I would have ZERO problems dropping $50 for an elite of either of those characters. Obviously, the less there is produced is the higher the price point goes up. I'd think at $50 per figure, that would still make there % of profit to make it worth while. Plus, common sense tells you that once that run of the figure is bought up, the secondary market price is going to be insane for a figure like that which would probably tempt me to buy a 2nd just to tuck away for another day when I need some extra cash. The problem is Mattel doesn't cater to collectors. There isn't even a ton of enthusiasm among the people on this board. If most of us wouldn't buy it why would they bother? I understand what you are saying and I am with you guys on the thought of this figure probably not ever happening. I'm just throwing out some ideas of how they COULD possibly get this figure to us, the collectors if they ever did choose to do so. And with that, maybe its time Mattel rethinks about who they want to cater to. I mean, the massive shelfwarming BAF lines show that even the kids no longer want Sheamus, Del Rio, and Punk anymore. And I also understand that Mattel has catered to the collectors before with the Matty.com exclusives, but I kind of feel they went half-ass with that. I think they went in with the mindset that it wouldn't work.
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