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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 12:24:53 GMT -5
That world champion guy who sees His shadow and declares six more weeks of no title defense.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Nov 21, 2014 12:32:30 GMT -5
That world champion guy who sees His shadow and declares six more weeks of no title defense. Ohhhhhhhh that guy, don't remember him much
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Post by Infinite on Nov 21, 2014 12:36:06 GMT -5
Brock is awesome. WWE must have known he wouldn't be around much way before they put the belt on him, the issue is as always with piss poor writing. They lacked a plan to keep things exciting for months without the belt and it shows. I still think though that as long as they do it right, Brock getting pinned will be a massive deal and a potential career maker for whoever does it. Real shame how they've used many of his appearances though, 2 of the Triple H matches were probably unnecessary, a 4th match with Cena is poor, the finish to their NOC match was ing trash, the match with Taker was disappointing although I now understand why they went with him to break the streak, and I actually forgot the Big Show match even happened. His match with Punk and the first 2 with Cena are the only real standouts, and I know a lot of people hated the Summerslam 14 one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 12:46:17 GMT -5
Brock is awesome. WWE must have known he wouldn't be around much way before they put the belt on him, the issue is as always with piss poor writing. They lacked a plan to keep things exciting for months without the belt and it shows. I still think though that as long as they do it right, Brock getting pinned will be a massive deal and a potential career maker for whoever does it. Real shame how they've used many of his appearances though, 2 of the Triple H matches were probably unnecessary, a 4th match with Cena is poor, the finish to their NOC match was ing trash, the match with Taker was disappointing although I now understand why they went with him to break the streak, and I actually forgot the Big Show match even happened. His match with Punk and the first 2 with Cena are the only real standouts, and I know a lot of people hated the Summerslam 14 one. I loved the way the Summerslam match was booked. Though 16 German suplexes was overkill.
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Post by Chip on Nov 21, 2014 13:39:06 GMT -5
the fact that they've given so much to a guy who doesn't give a damn back is pitiful. everyone says Brock's a beast yet they crap on the WWE for always pushing "big guys" Wrestling isnt REAL. it doesnt MATTER that a guy is big and can legit kick people's ass. that's what the UFC is for. Wrestling is about the performance, where a guy like Daniel Bryan can actually beat a guy like Big Show. Realistically, no one should be able to beat Big Show. He's a ing GIANT. But if he was champ people would be bitching because "he sucks" Wrestling is a television show. For entertainment. But since they opened the back door and let us in to the backstage we know that it's really about writing and politics. We know that guys are scripted to win or lose, we know about pushes and punishments. We know what makes a guy look strong vs jobbing out. So in the end it doesnt matter that Lesnar is "legit badass"...he's a WWE superstar. A WWE superstar that is getting paid a LARGE amount of cash, while other hard working people get laid off, to NOT DO ANYTHING. They've given him the world on a platter AGAIN. The last time this happened he walked out because he didnt like being on planes. Now he's prob gonna walk out again...or demand more money. The WWE does NOT need Brock Lesnar. They carried on perfectly without him for years. People are all over his jock because he beat Cena. Because Cena is looked at as the anti-entertainment. So yeah the BIG beast hits a bunch of german suplexes and punches to the kids hero and all of a sudden the WWE is cool again. Except it's not. Because they just went back to the same stuff. And now we have a Champion who hasn't been on the show in 2 months. It's stupid. It's pointless. It needs to end....I'm even willing to take the inevitable ReignswinsLoL just to end this dogcrap
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Nov 21, 2014 15:33:35 GMT -5
All this says is that he's "leaning towards UFC" right now. That hardly means he's definitely going back. To be honest, Brock has nothing to lose by flirting with a UFC return since it'll force the WWE to offer him more money if/when he negotiates with the WWE. I really don't see him going back to UFC because of how sweet his WWE deal is, unless of course he simply just wants to go back to finish unsettled business.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2014 15:48:35 GMT -5
I love how a rumor has turned into "HE'S GONE!!!!!!!!!! OMG THE STREAK!!!!!!!!"
First of all, until we hear something from Brock or WWE, this is just internet BS from people who are not close to the situation. It's 2014 and people still think Dave Meltzer knows his ass from his elbow when it comes to the wrestling business? I mean seriously? Does Brock call him or let him know his business? Are they tight? Do they hang out? No. Dana White ran his mouth about something to either troll the media or just be an ass, and like all the dirt sheet guys who think they are part of the business, Meltzer wrote a BS article. Dana White mentions Lesnar from time to time and everyone freaks out. He hasn't left yet. He's re-upped with WWE at least twice since his return.
Second of all, Brock Lesnar left UFC because he physically could not legit fight anymore. His disease does not allow him to train for real fights anymore. He can look like he looks and go through the motions of a choreographed WWE match, but he probably can't fight anymore.
It's been 3 years, but it doesn't change the fact that so much of his intestines were removed. Unless Brock only cares about the money and goes back to real fighting to get slaughtered, he'd probably actually be more inclined to stay in WWE and make a ton of money for hardly any work.
WWE doesn't seem like they have any probably paying him for basically no work....so if it was up to me and I could get paid to stay home, or I could get paid about the same or a little more to have to train like an animal and get my ass kicked for real....I'd pick WWE and sit home if I was Brock.
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Post by facemeat on Nov 21, 2014 16:02:20 GMT -5
I really can't imagine why WWE would even want to renew his contract...how could he possibly be worth what they've reportedly been paying him now that PPVs are $9.99 with no commitment? His worth was debatable even before the existence of the Network, but now, I just don't see how it could possibly be profitable to keep him around.
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Post by Word™ on Nov 21, 2014 16:44:39 GMT -5
Proved my point. Good for you. That's a very childish comment. Stop spewing sh*t.. Was my point. You don't know what you're talking about outside of one or two google searches, you're an internet troll.. Respect JOKERFC's wish and stop talking about MMA in here, stop trying to instigate a fight. Good day sir.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 16:50:00 GMT -5
Proved my point. Good for you. That's a very childish comment.. What are you, 15? Stop spewing sh*t.. You don't know what you're talking about and you're an internet troll.. Respect JOKERFC's wish and stop talking about MMA in here, stop trying to instigate a fight. Good day sir. I'm not instigating a fight. It was a discussion where you began insulting me. I cover MMA for a living, so I know exactly what I am talking about, sorry you're wrong, buddy. Lesnar is not a good fighter. He's got very little striking ability and a very weak ground game. Velasquez and Overeem destroyed him, and Lesnar got lucky break in the Carwin fight. He beat up on the guys smaller than him, and struggled or got destroyed by guys his own size. All facts. That said, on topic, Lesnar is just going to use this rumor as a way to pull more money from Vince when his contract expires, nothing more.
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Post by King of Kings on Nov 21, 2014 17:06:14 GMT -5
I don't know why wrestling presents such a niche culture, where the "Dirtsheetz" are the end all be all. Hey, real sports aren't like pro wrestling at all. You can't just go back at any age and be successful again like in pro wrestling, where 60 year old men are able to look like they're 20. Brock isn't going back to UFC, and if he does, he'll face a bunch of chumps and do nothing and fade into obscurity. WWE is so easy for him, he gets paid huge to do almost nothing. Honestly, who the would Brock even be talking to for this to be news? Dana White? He isn't in the lockerroom talking to jabronis about his future.
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Post by Word™ on Nov 21, 2014 17:07:14 GMT -5
That's a very childish comment.. What are you, 15? Stop spewing sh*t.. You don't know what you're talking about and you're an internet troll.. Respect JOKERFC's wish and stop talking about MMA in here, stop trying to instigate a fight. Good day sir. I'm not instigating a fight. It was a discussion where you began insulting me. I cover MMA for a living, so I know exactly what I am talking about, sorry you're wrong, buddy. Lesnar is not a good fighter. He's got very little striking ability and a very weak ground game. Velasquez and Overeem destroyed him, and Lesnar got lucky break in the Carwin fight. He beat up on the guys smaller than him, and struggled or got destroyed by guys his own size. All facts. That said, on topic, Lesnar is just going to use this rumor as a way to pull more money from Vince when his contract expires, nothing more. Actually you began insulting me.. Even when the topic is your own conversation on a forum, your facts are wrong. I'm glad you cover MMA for a living, I don't believe you, but that's none of my business anyways.. I believe Lesnar is a dangerous fighter. and you're not gonna change my mind, I'm not wrong.. Dangerous in the sense that if you make one mistake against Brock, he'll rip your head off.. Velsaquez is one of the best heavyweights in the entire world, he destroyed Lesnar.. Overeem didn't destroy Lesnar, he worked the gut.. The same gut Brock had multiple operations on. My point is ONLY, that Brock Lesnar isn't a fighter to take lightly, and could still beat anyone on any given day. You said it yourself a few pages back, dude is a beast.. You can't teach beast.. And if this is a tactic to pull even more money out of the WWE.. I imagine Vince would say something along the lines of...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 17:12:23 GMT -5
I'm not instigating a fight. It was a discussion where you began insulting me. I cover MMA for a living, so I know exactly what I am talking about, sorry you're wrong, buddy. Lesnar is not a good fighter. He's got very little striking ability and a very weak ground game. Velasquez and Overeem destroyed him, and Lesnar got lucky break in the Carwin fight. He beat up on the guys smaller than him, and struggled or got destroyed by guys his own size. All facts. That said, on topic, Lesnar is just going to use this rumor as a way to pull more money from Vince when his contract expires, nothing more. Actually you began insulting me.. Even when the topic is your own conversation on a forum, your facts are wrong. I'm glad you cover MMA for a living, I don't believe you, but that's none of my business anyways.. I believe Lesnar is a dangerous fighter. and you're not gonna change my mind, I'm not wrong.. Dangerous in the sense that if you make one mistake against Brock, he'll rip your head off.. Velsaquez is one of the best heavyweights in the entire world, he destroyed Lesnar.. Overeem didn't destroy Lesnar, he worked the gut.. The same gut Brock had multiple operations on. My point is ONLY, that Brock Lesnar isn't a fighter to take lightly, and could still beat anyone on any given day. You said it yourself a few pages back, dude is a beast.. You can't teach beast.. And if this is a tactic to pull even more money out of the WWE.. I imagine Vince would say something along the lines of... Don't have to believe me, but my paycheck says otherwise. You're right that if you make a mistake, he can take advantage. Most fighters are like that, look at his first fight with Mir. He could easily beat a guy like Struve, and I'd give him a shot against Hunt, but I doubt highly he'd ever fight for the belt unless it was interim again. And I'd like to believe Vince would balk on giving him more money, but unfortunately I don't think he would.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 17:16:38 GMT -5
If he learns more and becomes well rounded, he could be an unstoppable monster as a legitimate fighter.
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Post by tehforoh on Nov 21, 2014 19:00:11 GMT -5
the fact that they've given so much to a guy who doesn't give a damn back is pitiful. everyone says Brock's a beast yet they crap on the WWE for always pushing "big guys" Wrestling isnt REAL. it doesnt MATTER that a guy is big and can legit kick people's ass. that's what the UFC is for. Wrestling is about the performance, where a guy like Daniel Bryan can actually beat a guy like Big Show. Realistically, no one should be able to beat Big Show. He's a ing GIANT. But if he was champ people would be bitching because "he sucks" Wrestling is a television show. For entertainment. But since they opened the back door and let us in to the backstage we know that it's really about writing and politics. We know that guys are scripted to win or lose, we know about pushes and punishments. We know what makes a guy look strong vs jobbing out. So in the end it doesnt matter that Lesnar is "legit badass"...he's a WWE superstar. A WWE superstar that is getting paid a LARGE amount of cash, while other hard working people get laid off, to NOT DO ANYTHING. They've given him the world on a platter AGAIN. The last time this happened he walked out because he didnt like being on planes. Now he's prob gonna walk out again...or demand more money. The WWE does NOT need Brock Lesnar. They carried on perfectly without him for years. People are all over his jock because he beat Cena. Because Cena is looked at as the anti-entertainment. So yeah the BIG beast hits a bunch of german suplexes and punches to the kids hero and all of a sudden the WWE is cool again. Except it's not. Because they just went back to the same stuff. And now we have a Champion who hasn't been on the show in 2 months. It's stupid. It's pointless. It needs to end....I'm even willing to take the inevitable ReignswinsLoL just to end this dogcrap
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Nov 21, 2014 20:32:00 GMT -5
Even though I dont particularly like Lesnar he's played an ace game since his return, he's managed to come in pretty much where he left off 10 years ago as top dog.
He's taken the world title, taken the streak and now he's off again, I can't help but think more fool WWE for booking him to win the title and to go over Taker only to loose him 4 matches later!
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Post by | NLS™ | on Nov 21, 2014 20:42:11 GMT -5
whatever. At this point he can get his ass out of here.
I got all the figures I need Of him anyways.
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Post by becks007 on Nov 22, 2014 2:58:59 GMT -5
Well good riddance. It was a mistake to give the title to a part-timer to begin with.
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Post by Mox on Nov 22, 2014 3:07:36 GMT -5
I don't have much to add to the argument, but I will say I don't believe this. I don't believe he will go back.
I watched every fight Brock had in the UFC and he's not going back. He doesn't like getting hit. His "turtling" is etched in my brain forever. He's alright, had a good run as champ, but learned quick that there are other bad guys who hit hard. Going back could only hurt his legacy in the UFC. I can't imagine he wants that.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 22, 2014 7:02:38 GMT -5
If he learns more and becomes well rounded, he could be an unstoppable monster as a legitimate fighter. The problem is that we would be 38 by the time he got back into the Octagon. He's in the age group where athletes experience serious decline in skills and he's endured a serious illness. The guy was the best HWT in the world at one point, but 6 years is a very long time in the world of pro competition. How many good fights can Lesnar possibly have in him?
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