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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 22:51:03 GMT -5
The MOST frustrating thing to me in WWE right now is the opponents they have and they are picking for Brock Lesnar. 4 Cena matches, 3 Triple H matches, 1 Show match, and 1 Punk match. Are you ing kidding me? I know they only want to bring Brock in for big money matches but Brock is a draw on his own and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, can we get some fresh matches? Daniel Bryan? Sheamus? Ambrose? Orton? Rollins? Rusev? Cesaro? Ziggler? Miz? YES, I would much rather see Brock KILL the Miz more then I wanna see Brock vs. Cena AGAIN. Is a new, fresh, interesting match not a draw on its own? Tonight they had a chance to set up Orton, WHO IS TURNING FACE ANYWAY, to fight Brock in what would have been a very interesting, AND NEW AND FRESH MATCH for him. Not only that but they could have used that match as a backdrop to further tension between Rollins and Orton which is the direction they are going. I mean, WTF can you really do with Cena vs. Lesnar?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 26, 2014 22:52:37 GMT -5
I have to agree. I said it in the Hell in a Cell thread. I get that Cena/Brock is the most money match possible. However, that doesn't mean that Brock/Orton wouldn't be money.
While I disagree that they should shell out money for Brock/Ziggler, Brock/Miz or Brock?Cesaro; there are other options besides Brock/Show, Brock/Hunter and Brock/Cena
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Post by MattelsRule on Oct 26, 2014 22:54:03 GMT -5
You think there's any chance they do a triple threat with Brock/Cena/Orton?
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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 22:56:26 GMT -5
Brock vs. Cena is a money match...the first time...maybe the second time...but a third time?!
I would rather see a three way rather then Brock vs. Cena BUT I think Brock right now works better in a singles.
If Cena beats Brock, Brock becomes another dude. Cena doesn't need to slay Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 22:57:54 GMT -5
I would honestly love to see Ambrose/Lesnar. Ambrose's character would be the perfect opponent, but from a business standpoint, anything besides Cena/Lesnar right now would just be losing money. Though personally, I'm sick of those matches.
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Post by WMWanimations on Oct 26, 2014 23:00:58 GMT -5
Its simple principle, really. Other than Cena or Orton, no active wrestler on the roster deserves to face Lesnar. There are no opponents who pose a legitimate threat to him. WWE will have to build its growing talent (Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt, to name a few) in order for them to be on par with Lesnar. But until then, the only reasonable opponents to Lesnar are Cena and Orton.
I love all the new talent in WWE and enjoy them far more then Cena. just sayin.
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Post by The Yes Man on Oct 26, 2014 23:03:16 GMT -5
Cena vs Lesnar will put butts in seats.
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Post by rustyy on Oct 26, 2014 23:07:19 GMT -5
Wwe don't build stars, no one is credible enough to face him. Bryan is injured, as is Reigns. Maybe if they kept pushing Cesaro it would be good, but they backed themselves in a corner having him squash Cena.
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Post by k5 on Oct 26, 2014 23:07:38 GMT -5
really sucks for orton because going against lesnar could have been the push his character needed.
not interested in cena/lesnar 3..or 4.. at all.
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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 23:10:30 GMT -5
Its simple principle, really. Other than Cena or Orton, no active wrestler on the roster deserves to face Lesnar. There are no opponents who pose a legitimate threat to him. WWE will have to build its growing talent (Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt, to name a few) in order for them to be on par with Lesnar. But until then, the only reasonable opponents to Lesnar are Cena and Orton. I love all the new talent in WWE and enjoy them far more then Cena. just sayin. That problem is internal. If you know about NoC that you won't have another Brock title defense until the Rumble, you have 3-3.5 months to build up someone new and fresh for him to face. This will be the third time Brock and Cena have fought in 6-7 months. We've seen all we can see from them. It's just going to a matter of "well gee, let's see how they can get Cena out of losing clean to Brock." It comes down to them not having long term planning and thus, they lazily go back to John Cena. I do not believe there is still money in Cena vs. Lesnar. Their last match did not leave me begging for a third match. There was a LOT of money in the Summerslam match and maybe 75% of that Summerslam money still left for their rematch. AND if Cena just wins it back at the Rumble, what was the point of Lesnar holding it in the first place? Mind as well have just saved the money and had Rusev win it. Cena gains NOTHING from beating Brock. Cena gains NOTHING from beating anyone now. He's beaten EVERYONE.
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Post by Planktung on Oct 26, 2014 23:13:44 GMT -5
I would much rather see Brock KILL the Miz
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 26, 2014 23:14:35 GMT -5
Brock/Cearo Brock/Sheamus Brock/Orton Brock/Orton/Cena
would all be fun matches, but as much as rustyy is always such a negative, he's right here... WWE just isn't interested in building new stars until they have to...
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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 23:18:03 GMT -5
Why build new stars when you can just rely on cash cow Cena to sell enough merch to float the WWE ark?
I can't be too negative cause at least they let Ambrose vs. Rollins close the show tonight (even if it was just because of the shock ending)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:53:11 GMT -5
Wwe don't build stars, no one is credible enough to face him. Bryan is injured, as is Reigns. Maybe if they kept pushing Cesaro it would be good, but they backed themselves in a corner having him squash Cena. Don't build stars, but literally just closed a PPV with three of them. Okay then.
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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 23:59:36 GMT -5
Wwe don't build stars, no one is credible enough to face him. Bryan is injured, as is Reigns. Maybe if they kept pushing Cesaro it would be good, but they backed themselves in a corner having him squash Cena. Don't build stars, but literally just closed a PPV with three of them. Okay then. There is an argument out there that they only had Ambrose vs. Rollins as the main event to go off the air with Bray Wyatt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 0:01:46 GMT -5
Don't build stars, but literally just closed a PPV with three of them. Okay then. There is an argument out there that they only had Ambrose vs. Rollins as the main event to go off the air with Bray Wyatt. Fair, but even if so, how is that a bad thing?
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Post by Chief on Oct 27, 2014 0:08:07 GMT -5
There is an argument out there that they only had Ambrose vs. Rollins as the main event to go off the air with Bray Wyatt. Fair, but even if so, how is that a bad thing? I'm not even sure I buy into that argument. You could still do that and finish with Cena's victory in the HiAC to send ppl home happy. I'm still think this was their conscious choice to put Ambrose vs. Rollins on last. Even if you go with that argument I posted, does that mean they see more potential with the Wyatt vs. Ambrose feud then they do with the current Orton vs. Cena feud (or match, whatever you call it). Afterall the Ambrose/Wyatt deal was still featured more prominently in the main event.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 0:30:53 GMT -5
Fair, but even if so, how is that a bad thing? I'm not even sure I buy into that argument. You could still do that and finish with Cena's victory in the HiAC to send ppl home happy. I'm still think this was their conscious choice to put Ambrose vs. Rollins on last. Even if you go with that argument I posted, does that mean they see more potential with the Wyatt vs. Ambrose feud then they do with the current Orton vs. Cena feud (or match, whatever you call it). Afterall the Ambrose/Wyatt deal was still featured more prominently in the main event. Its certainly possible they see Ambrose/Wyatt as a higher priority than Rollins/Orton at the moment, but even if that's the opposite way, I think Ambrose/Wyatt is to strengthen both guys and build them. Honestly, I'm not expecting a clean finish to the Ambrose/Wyatt feud either. I see a dirty finish in the ending helping both guys reach that next level. I'm assuming the current feuds will go through till Royal Rumble, with Wyatt beating Ambrose at Royal Rumble, and Ambrose making a challenge to Rollins for Wrestlemania, whether the title be on Lesnar or Rollins at that point. I think we all hope it won't be on Cena by then. I'm just hoping whoever Cena faces at WM 31 goes over. It'll either be Ambrose or some other up and comer at this point, but I could see either Cena/Ambrose or Ambrose/Rollins happening with Ambrose going over either way, he's clearly their next big star.
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Post by rustyy on Oct 27, 2014 1:31:19 GMT -5
Wwe don't build stars, no one is credible enough to face him. Bryan is injured, as is Reigns. Maybe if they kept pushing Cesaro it would be good, but they backed themselves in a corner having him squash Cena. Don't build stars, but literally just closed a PPV with three of them. Okay then. None of them are stars credible enough for Lesnar. And neither Wyatt or Ambrose are stars, neither have done anything of value.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:45:29 GMT -5
Garbage.
Lesnar vs. Orton would've been cool, interesting and fresh to see.
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