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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 25, 2014 12:40:48 GMT -5
I think about this a lot. Bryan and Reigns, too. What were the plans for HIAC with a healthy Reigns? Would he just be in Ambrose's place and Dean wouldn't have rushed back? As far as Punk, I can't even hazard a guess. I assumed he'd be fighting HHH at Mania... Bryan would have fought Bray... Cena would fight Batista and Orton for the title. That probably would have put Punk in the title hunt... If they still did the Evolution vs. Shield thing then Cena would have been defending against Kane and eventually Brock (?). I have to think the Bryan love would have eventually gotten him a shot regardless though... maybe we'd get Cena vs. Punk vs. Bryan sometime over the summer? Idk. Maybe he'd be in Ambrose's spot of feuding with the Authority. I really have no idea. Two days before the Royal Rumble, Daniel Bryan was penciled in to square off against Sheamus. By that point, John Cena and Bray Wyatt was locked in for WrestleMania. Evolution & The Shield was concocted after WrestleMania to keep both Batista and Randy Orton away from the championship and give the rub to The Shield.
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Post by rustyy on Oct 25, 2014 15:28:19 GMT -5
He would have faced and beat HHH at Mania, Bryan still would have faced Batista and Orton. You're insane if you believe that. WM30 was going to be Batista V Orton with Bryan V Sheamus kicking off the show. no idea what he'd actually be doing, but i would have liked to see him have an intense feud with cesaro. I don't know how possible an intense feud is, since Cesaro doesn't have any mic skills.
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Post by The Yes Man on Oct 25, 2014 15:42:41 GMT -5
He would have faced and beat HHH at Mania, Bryan still would have faced Batista and Orton. You're insane if you believe that. WM30 was going to be Batista V Orton with Bryan V Sheamus kicking off the show. no idea what he'd actually be doing, but i would have liked to see him have an intense feud with cesaro. I don't know how possible an intense feud is, since Cesaro doesn't have any mic skills. Bryan wouldn't have faced Sheamus. Just the triple threat. Punk leaving wouldn't have suddenly put him in both of Bryan's matches, or kept Batista vs Orton one on one. The reaction Batista got happened much before Punk left. No way was Batista facing Orton one on one, and no way was Punk main eventing under any scenario.
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Post by rustyy on Oct 25, 2014 16:13:18 GMT -5
You're insane if you believe that. WM30 was going to be Batista V Orton with Bryan V Sheamus kicking off the show. I don't know how possible an intense feud is, since Cesaro doesn't have any mic skills. Bryan wouldn't have faced Sheamus. Just the triple threat. Punk leaving wouldn't have suddenly put him in both of Bryan's matches, or kept Batista vs Orton one on one. The reaction Batista got happened much before Punk left. No way was Batista facing Orton one on one, and no way was Punk main eventing under any scenario. If Punk stayed, Bryan/H doesn't happen, and Batista still won the Rumble. They wanted a one on one, but due to Bats flopping and Punk leaving they couldn't take this away too. If Punk stayed and Bats still flopped, they wouldn't of cared. The plan 2 days before the Rumble was him V Sheamus.
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Post by The Yes Man on Oct 25, 2014 16:22:07 GMT -5
Bryan wouldn't have faced Sheamus. Just the triple threat. Punk leaving wouldn't have suddenly put him in both of Bryan's matches, or kept Batista vs Orton one on one. The reaction Batista got happened much before Punk left. No way was Batista facing Orton one on one, and no way was Punk main eventing under any scenario. If Punk stayed, Bryan/H doesn't happen, and Batista still won the Rumble. They wanted a one on one, but due to Bats flopping and Punk leaving they couldn't take this away too. If Punk stayed and Bats still flopped, they wouldn't of cared. The plan 2 days before the Rumble was him V Sheamus. Punk staying wouldn't suddenly make everybody ok with Batista vs Orton. Bryan still would have found his way into the triple threat. There's no way in hell Batista vs Orton would main event Mania, Bryan being added is the only fix. Punk staying doesn't have anything to do with that. The only thing that changes is Punk faces HHH.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 25, 2014 19:26:42 GMT -5
He'd probably be main eventing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 20:38:34 GMT -5
Dancing with Rusev
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Post by rustyy on Oct 25, 2014 20:45:14 GMT -5
Yeah, nothing like a 434 day title reign in the mid card while John Cena gets to ME with Rock twice and John Lauranitis. People act like working and losing to Undertaker at Mania is some honor, Punk said he didn't want to because it's predictable and everyone knows what happens. He was right. You act like he's wrong to hate internet fans, they expect the world from him all the time, it's insane. Yes, he's an bunghole, he's made that clear since day one. He's not going to change himself. Nor should he have too. And may be on a slightly lighter schedule. you mean like how it was so predictable Undertaker would win this year and look what happened. Now go spew your non sense elsewhere hater. It's not non sense. It was obvious Punk wouldn't win, just as it was for the last 10 years it wasn't going to end. It's not nonsense, and I am not a hater, I like Undertaker, but his one match a year crap got old quickly.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 25, 2014 20:53:33 GMT -5
I think about this a lot. Bryan and Reigns, too. What were the plans for HIAC with a healthy Reigns? Would he just be in Ambrose's place and Dean wouldn't have rushed back? As far as Punk, I can't even hazard a guess. I assumed he'd be fighting HHH at Mania... Bryan would have fought Bray... Cena would fight Batista and Orton for the title. That probably would have put Punk in the title hunt... If they still did the Evolution vs. Shield thing then Cena would have been defending against Kane and eventually Brock (?). I have to think the Bryan love would have eventually gotten him a shot regardless though... maybe we'd get Cena vs. Punk vs. Bryan sometime over the summer? Idk. Maybe he'd be in Ambrose's spot of feuding with the Authority. I really have no idea. Two days before the Royal Rumble, Daniel Bryan was penciled in to square off against Sheamus. By that point, John Cena and Bray Wyatt was locked in for WrestleMania. Evolution & The Shield was concocted after WrestleMania to keep both Batista and Randy Orton away from the championship and give the rub to The Shield. OK.
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Post by TeamratedCDS on Oct 26, 2014 3:53:04 GMT -5
He'd be probably be facing Cena at Hell in the Cell instead of Orton. Why do you say this?
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Oct 26, 2014 6:22:43 GMT -5
He'd be probably be facing Cena at Hell in the Cell instead of Orton. Why do you say this? If Punk was in WWE now, Punk would be a better option to face Cena rather than Orton. Punk is more popular than Orton and a "Punk vs Cena" Hell in a Cell would draw more buys.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 26, 2014 8:39:26 GMT -5
If Punk was in WWE now, Punk would be a better option to face Cena rather than Orton. Punk is more popular than Orton and a "Punk vs Cena" Hell in a Cell would draw more buys. Now that you mentioned it, I am surprised we haven't seen the definitive blow-off to the John Cena/CM Punk rivalry. Everybody wins. You get the money making machine main eventing in Rock, you get to protect the "Once in a Lifetime" feel of WrestleMania 28, Punk gets his Mania main event and Cena gets to overcome the two guys he never could beat. i can see how that would have panned out. One of the wrestling radio shows I listen to groaned at the idea of seeing Cena/Rock II.
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Post by jessem52 on Oct 26, 2014 9:21:19 GMT -5
I recall reading somewhere that he was supposed to be Bray Wyatt's Summer program rather than Chris Jericho. It sounds good, but judging from Punk's late 2013 tenor, I'm just gonna guess it would be another seemingly never ending feud. The matches would be good, but not enough to bring the drive punk had lost.
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Post by HC ONE STICK on Oct 26, 2014 9:50:16 GMT -5
Honsty he would have been injured by now. Probably same situation as Bryan.
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Post by TeamratedCDS on Oct 26, 2014 10:09:52 GMT -5
If Punk was in WWE now, Punk would be a better option to face Cena rather than Orton. Punk is more popular than Orton and a "Punk vs Cena" Hell in a Cell would draw more buys. I could name 10 other people that are a better option. Doesn't mean it makes sense. You gotta think of it as in it'd be Cena vs an Authority guy and let's face it I'd rather see Cena vs Orton over Cena vs Kane or Rollins any day. I'm not ever sure what Punk would be doing because this year as a whole has been crazy. I'm sure we would've seen Brock vs Punk 2 for the belt. That's about the only thing I'm sure that would've happened besides the obvious Punk vs Kane at Mania.
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Oct 26, 2014 10:22:21 GMT -5
If Punk was in WWE now, Punk would be a better option to face Cena rather than Orton. Punk is more popular than Orton and a "Punk vs Cena" Hell in a Cell would draw more buys. I could name 10 other people that are a better option. Doesn't mean it makes sense. You gotta think of it as in it'd be Cena vs an Authority guy and let's face it I'd rather see Cena vs Orton over Cena vs Kane or Rollins any day. I'm not ever sure what Punk would be doing because this year as a whole has been crazy. I'm sure we would've seen Brock vs Punk 2 for the belt. That's about the only thing I'm sure that would've happened besides the obvious Punk vs Kane at Mania. I'm sure Punk would have turned heel again by now since his face turn wasn't successful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 12:07:55 GMT -5
Armchair bookers at their finest.
What's done is done.
Punk is a whiner.
A crybaby.
He was great.
But not the legend he thought himself to be.
And the thing about him not wanting to face Taker because it's predictable is stupid. Regardless of the outcome, how many guys have we heard say wrestling Taker at Mania is bigger than the belt? Aside from WM 30, how many years in a row did Taker have one of the if not THE best match on the show?
Punk basically got everything he wanted and still found reasons to ultimately complain and actually quit.
You guys know I hate on him. Hell, I was one of his biggest fans until he walked out. But IMO he showed himself to be a total bitch backstage and out of the ring to all his fans and wrestling fans in general.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Oct 26, 2014 13:01:54 GMT -5
You know this "push" Ziggler has been given? Yeah, that'd be Punk.
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Post by The Yes Man on Oct 26, 2014 13:50:24 GMT -5
You know this "push" Ziggler has been given? Yeah, that'd be Punk. As soon as the idea of Punk being pushed down into the upper mid card title scene he would have walked out anyway, and I wouldn't have blamed him.
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Post by TeamratedCDS on Oct 26, 2014 15:20:34 GMT -5
Punks face run wasn't successful because of absolutley idiotic booking. Another fued with Ryback which sucked. He had that little thing with the shield / authority which wasn't bad but they were going with his opponent at Mania to be Kane. It seems legit because why walk out if you're gonna face HHH and defeat him at Mania? It's no main event but that's a pretty big accomplishment. I still think we would've seen HHH vs Bryan and Punk vs Kans. not sure what would've happened after Mania though. Heel turn and he could've been the one to take over Bryan's spot as champ?
Things like this ate unpredictable. Sure it sucks that he is gone but its over and done with.
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