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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:05:34 GMT -5
Okay, literally every opinion you ever post now is invalid. People like terrible things all the time. The fact that you are a grown man and think anything thats popular is objectively good is blowing my mind right now. Just because you think something is terrible doesnt make it so. I think current wwe is terrible but Millions of people watch, so I see it's not that current product is terrible, it's just a matter of me not liking it. Look at McDonalds, lots of people hate it. Yet they own thousands of locations and serve billions, so obviously a lot of people think McDonalds is good. It's all a question of taste. If it is popular than obviously it is good to lots of people, just because you do not like it that does not mean you are right or wrong. It just means it isnt for you. Something that isnt to your particular liking can still be popular. See people use to think the sun revolved around the earth but then man realized we arent the center of the universe and we accepted the fact that the earth revolves around the Sun. Same thing here, everything that is good is not determined by you or any one person but rather it is a multitude of people that flock to good things.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:06:44 GMT -5
There is more to wrestling than silly ass cartoon stories ala Hulkamania or the Dungeon of Doom or whatever "entertainment" you want to bring up. You sound SUPER ignorant on this subject. Most of the professional wrestling in the world is about the wrestling, not the "entertainment," because prowrestling is entertaining enough as is. I'll agree to disagree with you on this here.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Oct 18, 2014 0:08:29 GMT -5
^^^ Why does this person's name appear in black italic lettering when quoted??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:10:26 GMT -5
There is more to wrestling than silly ass cartoon stories ala Hulkamania or the Dungeon of Doom or whatever "entertainment" you want to bring up. You sound SUPER ignorant on this subject. Most of the professional wrestling in the world is about the wrestling, not the "entertainment," because prowrestling is entertaining enough as is. I'll agree to disagree with you on this here. How on earth can you disagree with facts? Most wrestling is portrayed as a fake sport in which these things matter. WWE has been objectively bad more often than not for its entire existence and portrays it's product solely as entertainment in which nothing matters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:10:49 GMT -5
^^^ Why does this person's name appear in black italic lettering when quoted?? Apparently there's a word filter in place
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:13:50 GMT -5
Nobody is disputing this. What you fail to grasp is that people can also like things that just aren't good in any way, shape, or form.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:18:51 GMT -5
I'll agree to disagree with you on this here. How on earth can you disagree with facts? Most wrestling is portrayed as a fake sport in which these things matter. WWE has been objectively bad more often than not for its entire existence and portrays it's product solely as entertainment in which nothing matters. So if you view it all as fake why is it so important to you that they focus more on wrestling? I mean if you say it's all fake, the wrestling doesnt matter much does it? If you wanted to watch pure wrestling go watch college sports. I watch Pro wrestling because I like the spectacle, I like the show, I want to be entertained. Entertainment is to pro wrestling what accessories are to wrestling figures. It's nice to get wrestling/figures but it's nicer when I also get that plus entertainment/accessories.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:19:39 GMT -5
Nobody is disputing this. What you fail to grasp is that people can also like things that just aren't good in any way, shape, or form. Name one example.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:23:51 GMT -5
How on earth can you disagree with facts? Most wrestling is portrayed as a fake sport in which these things matter. WWE has been objectively bad more often than not for its entire existence and portrays it's product solely as entertainment in which nothing matters. So if you view it all as fake why is it so important to you that they focus more on wrestling? I mean if you say it's all fake, the wrestling doesnt matter much does it? Movies are fake, does that mean the acting doesn't matter?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:25:54 GMT -5
Nobody is disputing this. What you fail to grasp is that people can also like things that just aren't good in any way, shape, or form. Name one example. 99% of Lil B's musical output is mumbled garbage over unmastered laptop beats recorded in his bedroom. I am a fan, but it is undoubtedly NOT good. It's possible to like and enjoy things that are not good. It happens all the time. Things are popular because they appeal to people's tastes, not because they are good or bad.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:30:32 GMT -5
So if you view it all as fake why is it so important to you that they focus more on wrestling? I mean if you say it's all fake, the wrestling doesnt matter much does it? Movies are fake, does that mean the acting doesn't matter? It matters, no one ever said wrestling doesnt matter. but in movies we also have musical soundtracks, we have lighting, we have sets, we have locations, we have special effects, we have a script, we have wardrobe. It isnt all just about the acting. You can take the late great Heath Ledger, remove his Joker makeup, remove the outfit, remove the on location shooting, remove the script, just put Heath in a room and have him act. How long will you be entertained? You're going to tell me you'd rather watch that instead of watching him be the Joker in the movie? Acting it important, wrestling is important. You do not need to be the worlds best actor to make a great movie. You do not need to be the worlds best wrestler to have a great match. Everything has to click for something to be great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:32:35 GMT -5
This is completely pointless.
Go watch a Misawa match already.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:34:07 GMT -5
99% of Lil B's musical output is mumbled garbage over unmastered laptop beats recorded in his bedroom. I am a fan, but it is undoubtedly NOT good. It's possible to like and enjoy things that are not good. It happens all the time. Things are popular because they appeal to people's tastes, not because they are good or bad. I have no idea who Lil B is. Still you said you liked him/her so that makes it good to you. So see, Lil B is good to you which means he is popular in your eyes. You dont like Lil B's sound as far as lyrics, from what I gather, but you listen and enjoy it overall.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:36:25 GMT -5
99% of Lil B's musical output is mumbled garbage over unmastered laptop beats recorded in his bedroom. I am a fan, but it is undoubtedly NOT good. It's possible to like and enjoy things that are not good. It happens all the time. Things are popular because they appeal to people's tastes, not because they are good or bad. I have no idea who Lil B is. Still you said you liked him/her so that makes it good to you. So see, Lil B is good to you which means he is popular in your eyes. You dont like Lil B's sound as far as lyrics, from what I gather, but you listen and enjoy it overall. ...that is not what popular means. That is not what good means. You really need a dictionary and to really stop, think, and focus on why the things you are typing with your fingers are so inane.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 18, 2014 0:38:59 GMT -5
This is completely pointless. Go watch a Misawa match already. In the Misawa match is there a wrestling ring? Is it in an arena? Is there lighting? Is there intro music? Are there fans cheering? All of that is part of the smoke and mirrors that is used to present pro wrestling to fans as entertainment. If it was just about the wrestling there would be no need for a pro wrestling ring, they'd wrestle on gym mats. If it was just athletic wrestling they wouldnt be in an arena, they's be in a gymnasium somewhere. If it was just about the wrestling there would be no lighting directly above the ring, there would just be gymnasium lighting. And if it was just about athletic wrestling there would be no cheering, just polite applause after a match. The very fact that they took the time to record a Misawa match is in hopes that someone would one day purchase it so that they may be entertained.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:47:54 GMT -5
I think we may get a Zeus eventually.
Depends on how long Mattel has the license for WWE figures.
Anything can happen, we never thought they'd split from Jakks.
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Post by Roman Bellic on Oct 18, 2014 1:19:17 GMT -5
I have no idea who Lil B is. Still you said you liked him/her so that makes it good to you. So see, Lil B is good to you which means he is popular in your eyes. You dont like Lil B's sound as far as lyrics, from what I gather, but you listen and enjoy it overall. ...that is not what popular means. That is not what good means. You really need a dictionary and to really stop, think, and focus on why the things you are typing with your fingers are so inane.ain't that a load of Irony
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 18, 2014 1:39:06 GMT -5
I mean , i knew and loved him as Deebo before ever even realized he was a pro wrestler. Then when I realized he had wrestled I totally became a mark. Would buy a figure for sure.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Oct 18, 2014 1:50:44 GMT -5
If they ever considered this all they would need to do is watch one of his matches, and Vince would tear the contract to shreds.
"I would have said "lol" and liked your comment. But I don't and it wasn't funny." - Zues
Now, go back to your Cena figures and quit hatein' on our awesome figure dreams.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 18, 2014 1:58:37 GMT -5
I would possibly get him if he had full entrance gear, and definitely would if they also made Rip... Let's get a whole series and also include Stand Hansen and Kurt Fuller. I'm only half joking.
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