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Post by IRS on Sept 23, 2014 8:35:44 GMT -5
If the Wyatt/Cena feud has taught us ANYTHING, it's that you should keep young talent faaaaaaaaarrrr away from Cena.
If it happened after Ambrose has already established himself as more of a top-level guy, then I could see it being fun to watch - but not before then. Ambrose has such potential to be a huge star, I wouldn't want to risk screwing that up with Mr. Fruity Pebbles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 8:42:31 GMT -5
Keep Ambrose away from that cancer, he's already headed down the path to jobberville, we don't need to expedite his journey. No, he's not. Do you even watch the show? He's SO far away from that. He's noted on several occasions that he doesn't really watch the product anymore, so I don't get why he thinks he's at liberty to say stuff like that. Ambrose is one of the hottest acts in the company right now, but he's headed down the path to jobberville? Okay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 9:12:32 GMT -5
Yeah......I have to say I have little to no interest in a Cena vs Ambrose program......
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 23, 2014 9:22:27 GMT -5
Yeah......I have to say I have little to no interest in a Cena vs Ambrose program...... Agreed. 100%.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 23, 2014 9:28:33 GMT -5
Down the road? Sure.
Now? No thank you.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 23, 2014 9:34:34 GMT -5
I'd be fine with that, eventually. The two had good chemistry last night.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 9:43:57 GMT -5
Down the road? Sure. Now? No thank you. Yes exactly....Ambrose needs to keep his momentum intact.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 23, 2014 9:45:09 GMT -5
Down the road? Sure. Now? No thank you. Yes exactly....Ambrose needs to keep his momentum intact. I love EVERYTHING about Ambrose atm, a loss to Cena would do him no favors right now.
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Post by Chip on Sept 23, 2014 11:55:47 GMT -5
of course he will because the WWE has proven that they will do anything the possibly can to insert John Cena into EVERY "hot" fan-driven angle that occurs. Thus rendering it not as amazing as it was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 12:55:12 GMT -5
The sad thing is Ambrose and Rollins are the hottest thing going right now and of course the wwe has to throw cena in the middle of it. Ambrose needs to get his retribution against Rollins but I'm afraid cena will be used to benefit from Ambrose's momentum. This is what happens when you refuse to make new stars. and are forced to put the belt on a guy that only shows up. Only a handful times of a year.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 13:37:35 GMT -5
Keep Ambrose away from that cancer, he's already headed down the path to jobberville, we don't need to expedite his journey. No, he's not. Do you even watch the show? He's SO far away from that. Yeah, I've been watching lately. It's very obvious with the way he's treated he's not going to go anywhere after this Rollins feud is over. I mean, Reigns already did the job Ambrose couldn't so I don't even know why they bother to keep it going. I mean, Kane has beaten Ambrose, and Kane is nothing but a jobber to the stars now. That should tell you exactly how they feel about him. WWE learned from DB you can't outright bury someone, it has to be subtle. After this feud I honestly believe he goes no where. I'm not wrong, all my favorites are buried. Or close too it. The only favorite I've had recently that has done anything is Punk, and we all know how that is going at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 14:40:30 GMT -5
No, he's not. Do you even watch the show? He's SO far away from that. Yeah, I've been watching lately. It's very obvious with the way he's treated he's not going to go anywhere after this Rollins feud is over. I mean, Reigns already did the job Ambrose couldn't so I don't even know why they bother to keep it going. I mean, Kane has beaten Ambrose, and Kane is nothing but a jobber to the stars now. That should tell you exactly how they feel about him. WWE learned from DB you can't outright bury someone, it has to be subtle. After this feud I honestly believe he goes no where. I'm not wrong, all my favorites are buried. Or close too it. The only favorite I've had recently that has done anything is Punk, and we all know how that is going at the moment. You clearly don't understand what "bury" means, nor have you been watching the same show as everyone else. I've seen your other posts, so I know there's no reason to try and debate the topic with you, but you're completely wrong on just about everything besides Kane's role.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 15:09:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been watching lately. It's very obvious with the way he's treated he's not going to go anywhere after this Rollins feud is over. I mean, Reigns already did the job Ambrose couldn't so I don't even know why they bother to keep it going. I mean, Kane has beaten Ambrose, and Kane is nothing but a jobber to the stars now. That should tell you exactly how they feel about him. WWE learned from DB you can't outright bury someone, it has to be subtle. After this feud I honestly believe he goes no where. I'm not wrong, all my favorites are buried. Or close too it. The only favorite I've had recently that has done anything is Punk, and we all know how that is going at the moment. You clearly don't understand what "bury" means, nor have you been watching the same show as everyone else. I've seen your other posts, so I know there's no reason to try and debate the topic with you, but you're completely wrong on just about everything besides Kane's role. I have a perfect understand of a burial, I'm a Sandow fan. I watch the show just as you do, and I have seen what WWE do to talented mic workers in 2014.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 15:27:15 GMT -5
You clearly don't understand what "bury" means, nor have you been watching the same show as everyone else. I've seen your other posts, so I know there's no reason to try and debate the topic with you, but you're completely wrong on just about everything besides Kane's role. I have a perfect understand of a burial, I'm a Sandow fan. I watch the show just as you do, and I have seen what WWE do to talented mic workers in 2014. Good for you, you think you understand terms that you don't. You should be proud.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 15:52:45 GMT -5
I have a perfect understand of a burial, I'm a Sandow fan. I watch the show just as you do, and I have seen what WWE do to talented mic workers in 2014. Good for you, you think you understand terms that you don't. You should be proud. Don't insult me, and definitely don't tell me what I do and do not understand. Either debate with me like an adult or don't bother responding anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 15:57:12 GMT -5
Good for you, you think you understand terms that you don't. You should be proud. Don't insult me, and definitely don't tell me what I do and do not understand. Either debate with me like an adult or don't bother responding anymore. There's not debate about whether or not Ambrose is headed towards, as you put it, jobbersville. He's one of the main focuses every show he is on. If you watched the product, you would see that. He's booked absolutely perfect for what his character is. He beats Kane, sure, anybody could, the only time he loses is through dirty tactics and interference. He's not booked to be unstoppable like you want him to be, he's not booked to be unbeatable. He's booked to be a psychopath that won't stop until he comes out on top. The booking shows this, and in no way shows he's headed towards obscurity. The only way anyone could see that, would be if they don't watch the shows. Get it? Good.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 16:07:41 GMT -5
Don't insult me, and definitely don't tell me what I do and do not understand. Either debate with me like an adult or don't bother responding anymore. There's not debate about whether or not Ambrose is headed towards, as you put it, jobbersville. He's one of the main focuses every show he is on. If you watched the product, you would see that. He's booked absolutely perfect for what his character is. He beats Kane, sure, anybody could, the only time he loses is through dirty tactics and interference. He's not booked to be unstoppable like you want him to be, he's not booked to be unbeatable. He's booked to be a psychopath that won't stop until he comes out on top. The booking shows this, and in no way shows he's headed towards obscurity. The only way anyone could see that, would be if they don't watch the shows. Get it? Good. I watch the shows, again stop telling me what I do. A psychopath should be booked unstoppable, he should be booked like Austin where he actually gets the upper hand on Rollins and the corporation. Leave Rollins laid out and don't let him escape instead of letting him run away constantly. Rollins lays his ass out all the time, why can't we have a change? Would the Austin/mcmahon feud have been good if Mcmahon always laid out Austin? No. Get it? Good. You're obviously just going to keep insulting my intelligence so I'm not going to bother responding anymore. This was fun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:20:39 GMT -5
There's not debate about whether or not Ambrose is headed towards, as you put it, jobbersville. He's one of the main focuses every show he is on. If you watched the product, you would see that. He's booked absolutely perfect for what his character is. He beats Kane, sure, anybody could, the only time he loses is through dirty tactics and interference. He's not booked to be unstoppable like you want him to be, he's not booked to be unbeatable. He's booked to be a psychopath that won't stop until he comes out on top. The booking shows this, and in no way shows he's headed towards obscurity. The only way anyone could see that, would be if they don't watch the shows. Get it? Good. I watch the shows, again stop telling me what I do. A psychopath should be booked unstoppable, he should be booked like Austin where he actually gets the upper hand on Rollins and the corporation. Leave Rollins laid out and don't let him escape instead of letting him run away constantly. Rollins lays his ass out all the time, why can't we have a change? Would the Austin/mcmahon feud have been good if Mcmahon always laid out Austin? No. Get it? Good. You're obviously just going to keep insulting my intelligence so I'm not going to bother responding anymore. This was fun. If said psychopath is a big guy than yeah, you book him unstoppable. Ambrose is not a big guy and Austin was not booked like a psychopath (though I'm sure you'll try to argue he was). Ambrose doesn't need to lay out Rollins constantly. The storyline is that he's got Rollins' number but the Authority is always there to bail Rollins out. This way, when Ambrose finally gets a fair shot at Rollins, he'll win and prove that he's the better man.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 23, 2014 16:29:32 GMT -5
But what if you don't care about the storyline and just want your favourites to win all the time otherwise they're being buried? What then?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 23, 2014 16:42:06 GMT -5
I watch the shows, again stop telling me what I do. A psychopath should be booked unstoppable, he should be booked like Austin where he actually gets the upper hand on Rollins and the corporation. Leave Rollins laid out and don't let him escape instead of letting him run away constantly. Rollins lays his ass out all the time, why can't we have a change? Would the Austin/mcmahon feud have been good if Mcmahon always laid out Austin? No. Get it? Good. You're obviously just going to keep insulting my intelligence so I'm not going to bother responding anymore. This was fun. If said psychopath is a big guy than yeah, you book him unstoppable. Ambrose is not a big guy and Austin was not booked like a psychopath (though I'm sure you'll try to argue he was). Ambrose doesn't need to lay out Rollins constantly. The storyline is that he's got Rollins' number but the Authority is always there to bail Rollins out. This way, when Ambrose finally gets a fair shot at Rollins, he'll win and prove that he's the better man. It's like booking 101
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