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Post by Daria on Sept 22, 2014 10:34:22 GMT -5
Both of the bellAs are good in the ring. Both of them have been far more impressive than AJ and paige in quite sometime. Aj has gotten stale, her performances, her mic work is repetitive, and that break she took reslly made her a lesser worker than before. No matter how much paige tries the fans still can't get into her. She got no pops her first reign , and her second reign was dead too. The bellAs are up there with paige and Aj now honestly, if they got mic work done and even got up to Paige's level in mic work they'd be great. Also, I really think after being in wwe for 6 years people would stop referring to them as models. I wouldn't refer to the Bellas as models, but I also think this is another case of a Divas fan over hyping mediocre performances. The Bellas have vastly improved since their return but they're still not very good, it's just that the Divas division is sorely lacking right now. AJ hasn't impressed much with her ring work recently, I agree, and as much as I adore Paige, she hasn't been able to connect with the fans the way she did in NXT. The Bellas are still not very good, but decent and they are both downright pitiful on the microphone and when it comes to acting. The bellAs are way above "decent" whatt makes Aj and Paige better? Both of them have took a back burner when it comes to ring work. People over rate Paige and Aj if anything. The division isnt lacking there are only four current main roster divas who are average - below average (summer, cameron, eva, and rosa) and the rest can go in the ring, paige isnt that good on the mic either.. Brie and nikki are up there with Aj and Paige
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Sept 22, 2014 10:36:22 GMT -5
Oh joy, another of those "they haven't lived their whole life for pro wrestling so they aren't good" fights. remember a girl by the name of Trish Stratus? When she got there, she didn't know how to wrestle. And now? She's one of, if not the biggest name in women's wrestling.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 22, 2014 10:40:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't refer to the Bellas as models, but I also think this is another case of a Divas fan over hyping mediocre performances. The Bellas have vastly improved since their return but they're still not very good, it's just that the Divas division is sorely lacking right now. AJ hasn't impressed much with her ring work recently, I agree, and as much as I adore Paige, she hasn't been able to connect with the fans the way she did in NXT. The Bellas are still not very good, but decent and they are both downright pitiful on the microphone and when it comes to acting. The bellAs are way above "decent" whatt makes Aj and Paige better? Both of them have took a back burner when it comes to ring work. People over rate Paige and Aj if anything. The division isnt lacking there are only four current main roster divas who are average - below average (summer, cameron, eva, and rosa) and the rest can go in the ring, paige isnt that good on the mic either.. Brie and nikki are up there with Aj and Paige I'm not overrating Paige or AJ. Read what I said. AJ has lacked in the ring lately and Paige can't connect with the fans. I say you're overrating the Bellas. Yes, Summer, Cameron, Eva and Rosa are the worst on the roster, but the division is lacking. No Diva is great, they're all decent to pretty good. None really have the total package. Prime example is that Natalya is the best worker on the roster but is incredibly dull as a character. I'm not saying Paige or AJ are far above the Bellas, I'm just saying the Bellas aren't very good.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Sept 22, 2014 10:40:52 GMT -5
Nikki has improved in the ring no doubt. It's Too Bad She's Too Bad at everything else...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 22, 2014 10:41:24 GMT -5
Oh joy, another of those "they haven't lived their whole life for pro wrestling so they aren't good" fights. remember a girl by the name of Trish Stratus? When she got there, she didn't know how to wrestle. And now? She's one of, if not the biggest name in women's wrestling. Hey, I'm not saying anything like about the Bellas. They've vastly improved and I would like to see them continue to grow and for the entire women's division to grow as a whole. I'm a big supporter of women's wrestling.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 22, 2014 11:16:38 GMT -5
Come on now... the Bellas absolutely suck in the ring. If Paige and AJ were holding Nikki's hand any tighter, Eric Bischoff would have been promoting it as the main event of RAW: Nikki is slow in the ring, telegraphs absolutely everything to the point that you can't suspend disbelief at all, and has this terrible move-pose-pin-move-pose-pin pattern to all of her matches that makes entertainment almost impossible. Other than "OMG TWINS!" (pass the Coors Light, bruh!) he Bellas have absolutely no value on the WWE roster.
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Post by Sky'sTheLimit on Sept 22, 2014 11:17:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't refer to the Bellas as models, but I also think this is another case of a Divas fan over hyping mediocre performances. The Bellas have vastly improved since their return but they're still not very good, it's just that the Divas division is sorely lacking right now. AJ hasn't impressed much with her ring work recently, I agree, and as much as I adore Paige, she hasn't been able to connect with the fans the way she did in NXT. The Bellas are still not very good, but decent and they are both downright pitiful on the microphone and when it comes to acting. The bellAs are way above "decent" whatt makes Aj and Paige better? Both of them have took a back burner when it comes to ring work. People over rate Paige and Aj if anything. The division isnt lacking there are only four current main roster divas who are average - below average (summer, cameron, eva, and rosa) and the rest can go in the ring, paige isnt that good on the mic either.. Brie and nikki are up there with Aj and Paige I wouldn't put Summer as below average, because she can go in the ring. And the Bellas have improved a lot, I was very impressed with the match last night.
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Post by Mox on Sept 22, 2014 11:22:53 GMT -5
Come on now... the Bellas absolutely suck in the ring. If Paige and AJ were holding Nikki's hand any tighter, Eric Bischoff would have been promoting it as the main event of RAW: Nikki is slow in the ring, telegraphs absolutely everything to the point that you can't suspend disbelief at all, and has this terrible move-pose-pin-move-pose-pin pattern to all of her matches that makes entertainment almost impossible. Other than "OMG TWINS!" (pass the Coors Light, bruh!) he Bellas have absolutely no value on the WWE roster. Wow. I just think that's an extreme opinion. I'm not saying she's Sara Del Rey but I truly feel like she's been very impressive. It's weird how strongly people feel on both sides here.
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Post by J12 on Sept 22, 2014 11:28:22 GMT -5
I thought she was great last night. In fact, I thought the divas stole the show.
Not that they necessarily had the best match, but it was the most entertaining to me.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 22, 2014 11:31:52 GMT -5
Come on now... the Bellas absolutely suck in the ring. If Paige and AJ were holding Nikki's hand any tighter, Eric Bischoff would have been promoting it as the main event of RAW: Nikki is slow in the ring, telegraphs absolutely everything to the point that you can't suspend disbelief at all, and has this terrible move-pose-pin-move-pose-pin pattern to all of her matches that makes entertainment almost impossible. Other than "OMG TWINS!" (pass the Coors Light, bruh!) he Bellas have absolutely no value on the WWE roster. Wow. I just think that's an extreme opinion. I'm not saying she's Sara Del Rey but I truly feel like she's been very impressive. It's weird how strongly people feel on both sides here. It's always a strong reaction because there are some people who are incredibly negative about everything the Divas do. This causes the fans of the Divas to get overly protective and they then try to spin everything in a positive manner, leading to over praise for girls who don't even really deserve it.
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Post by sitruC on Sept 22, 2014 11:43:17 GMT -5
Seems like being cool and hating everything about Cena has now moved on to begin edgy and hating everything about Nikki.
I don't mind her, the divas division usually bores me so I'm not dedicated to it but from what ive seen of her she is greatly improving, just because someone is learning doesn't make them bad at their job.
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Post by Daria on Sept 22, 2014 11:56:31 GMT -5
The bellAs are way above "decent" whatt makes Aj and Paige better? Both of them have took a back burner when it comes to ring work. People over rate Paige and Aj if anything. The division isnt lacking there are only four current main roster divas who are average - below average (summer, cameron, eva, and rosa) and the rest can go in the ring, paige isnt that good on the mic either.. Brie and nikki are up there with Aj and Paige I wouldn't put Summer as below average, because she can go in the ring. And the Bellas have improved a lot, I was very impressed with the match last night. Summer before she took that break to film the marine, yes. she's been awful lately. Her match with charlotte was bad, the match with Aj on main event was bad on both parts. Hopefully she gets the rust or whatever off soon
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Post by PJ on Sept 22, 2014 12:03:59 GMT -5
I said it in another thread, but I'll say it again. I have stated numerous times I have never been an AJ fan, but after watching last night besides Natalia AJ is the only diva in the main roster with in ring talent. Nikki may have improved but still hasn't really shown me anything. And Paige looks worse and worse on a weekly basis to me. I am glad Cole has stooped saying how she has been in the business all her life and wrestling since she was 12 (or whatever her age was) because she is horrid and should be embarrassed of how poor her matches are. Her ring psychology is non-existent.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 22, 2014 12:37:40 GMT -5
Both Bellas have improved greatly over the years but they're still nothing to call home about. If you watch their matches they both just do the "basics" and go through the motions. They havent gone that extra step yet but after showing improvement, its very likely they can and will one day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 12:42:39 GMT -5
Both of the bellAs are good in the ring. Both of them have been far more impressive than AJ and paige in quite sometime. Aj has gotten stale, her performances, her mic work is repetitive, and that break she took reslly made her a lesser worker than before. No matter how much paige tries the fans still can't get into her. She got no pops her first reign , and her second reign was dead too. The bellAs are up there with paige and Aj now honestly, if they got mic work done and even got up to Paige's level in mic work they'd be great. Also, I really think after being in wwe for 6 years people would stop referring to them as models. "She got no pops her first reign" I don't think you ever watched when she debuted? Crowd went crazy. You needa adjust your tv volume
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Post by Daria on Sept 22, 2014 13:36:12 GMT -5
Both of the bellAs are good in the ring. Both of them have been far more impressive than AJ and paige in quite sometime. Aj has gotten stale, her performances, her mic work is repetitive, and that break she took reslly made her a lesser worker than before. No matter how much paige tries the fans still can't get into her. She got no pops her first reign , and her second reign was dead too. The bellAs are up there with paige and Aj now honestly, if they got mic work done and even got up to Paige's level in mic work they'd be great. Also, I really think after being in wwe for 6 years people would stop referring to them as models. "She got no pops her first reign" I don't think you ever watched when she debuted? Crowd went crazy. You needa adjust your tv volume shes gotten a few good reactions, but other than that it's silent to little reactions all the time she comes to the ring
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Post by Sky'sTheLimit on Sept 22, 2014 13:52:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't put Summer as below average, because she can go in the ring. And the Bellas have improved a lot, I was very impressed with the match last night. Summer before she took that break to film the marine, yes. she's been awful lately. Her match with charlotte was bad, the match with Aj on main event was bad on both parts. Hopefully she gets the rust or whatever off soon Ahh right, I understand you, she wasn't her best in her recent matches.
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Post by Sleazyness on Sept 22, 2014 16:36:29 GMT -5
I thought she was great last night. In fact, I thought the divas stole the show. Not that they necessarily had the best match, but it was the most entertaining to me. I disagree with this, but surprisingly as much as I bash The Bellas, who would have ever thought that I would pick a match with one in it as the second best match of the whole show? Actually, who would have thought I would put any diva's match as the second best match? Anyways, what really makes me hate The Bellas is Total Divas. The show is such a joke and whether it be fake or not, The Bellas come off as "Oh, well I've been here longer and I date Cena and she's married to Bryan, we deserve the spotlight" type of girls...well more Nikki than Brie. It makes me think that WWE honestly doesn't give two craps about the division and makes the divas who do care look like garbage. People who think women's wrestling is garbage, it's because they have been fed this mediocre diva's wrestling. You ever watch a Candice LeRae(Who is stunning in my eyes) fight? The girl is amazing in the ring and also works with guys in the ring and sometimes out performs them. I honestly think if they book matches more like yesterday with the divas, we could have a solid division. NXT Divas are booked to perfection. Paige looked absolutely amazing in NXT. Now, she is running with this gimmick that just doesn't sit well with me and she isn't looking that great because of this terrible booking. So, in conclusion... I hate the Bellas still. I think that Nikki DID do a pretty decent job, but ONE match doesn't speak loud enough for me. Oh, also I forgot to mention, when Nikki continuously runs her mouth in the ring and says the same things over again it kind of kills what's going on in the ring. I don't need to hear, "DO YOU LIKE THAT?" every two minutes.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 22, 2014 17:56:33 GMT -5
I cannot believe some of the comments on this thread. Paige and AJ are the best women wrestlers on the roster and to say that the Bella's are on their level is pure disrespectful to women wrestling.
If anything last night her presence ruined a perfect Paige and AJ match.
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Post by Daria on Sept 22, 2014 18:16:02 GMT -5
I cannot believe some of the comments on this thread. Paige and AJ are the best women wrestlers on the roster and to say that the Bella's are on their level is pure disrespectful to women wrestling.
If anything last night her presence ruined a perfect Paige and AJ match. Paige and Aj at battleground was sloppy. Paige vs Aj at summer slam was good but brie vs stephanie was way better. Aj and paige DONT click as people expected them to do. The bellas are at there level or ATLEAST Aj's now. Aj's skills digressed when she returned and paige on the maib roster has been lack luster
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