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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 0:50:30 GMT -5
Well, you say that, but I know the entire summer of 2012 was Cena/Show/Laurenitis on the top of the card, and what I remember is the fnatastic Punk title matches. And this year the only things that really come to mind at first thought is all the great tag matches we've had this year, even excluding the Shield/Evolution ones since they topped their cards, I remember other stuff. It honestly doesn't matter where someone is on the card, watch and enjoy who you like. Reigns is decent and I enjoy him, and the fact that they've done his push as a slow burn and just started ramping it up in the second half of this year. You can off and cry and bitch into your Ben and Jerry's if it pisses you off so much, and other peoples preferences mean so damn little to you, you stupid, worthless bitch Name calling is not tolerated here. Your post will be edited to reflect that and you have been reported for it.
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Post by Robert69 on Sept 22, 2014 2:36:05 GMT -5
Why's everyone gotta be so hostile? Why are we callin' people worthless here, and the dude yesterday was wishing injury and death on people?
Y'all need to get laid. Or find Jesus. Pick one.
I'm a HUGE fan of Reigns. Over Ambrose; FAR over Rollins, now.
I'm going to miss the guy, and from what I hear, his match against Rusev actually wasn't bad. Not to mention he has had good matches/spots with numerous others.
You've got great potential in Ambrose/Reigns as a new Austin/Rock, toss in Bryan getting that Bret Hart love -- Ziggler pulling HBK duties...the future is still very bright. So what if Reigns leads that new pack into the limelight? He can't, and wont be the only talent to make the future shine. Even Super Cena hasn't been the ONLY one to carry the company/belt the past 12 years or so...
I think it's less Roman Reigns hate, more immediate gratification. How quickly have we forgotten the fit people threw last year with D Bry's build up to WM. "Why haven't they put the belt on him?" "He should have been champ at ______" "they're missing the boat!" -- then dude pulls double duty at WM, and STILL puts on a great match. For all the hate we throw WWE's way (and I admit I haven't even really tuned in for a month or so now, but I linger here, and read reports, etc) -- more often than not, they really just show us up.
Give the brotha a chance, man!
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Post by Robert69 on Sept 22, 2014 2:37:04 GMT -5
Also, I wish the man a speedy recovery. He's a working guy like everyone else, but doing what he loves, to put food on the table. I'd never wish ill to someone trying to provide for their family.
Prayers, and thoughts, bro.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 22, 2014 6:58:58 GMT -5
It sucks he is out although if he had to be out for a couple of months this is the perfect time to check out (after Summerslam but before the Royal Rumble).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 8:29:34 GMT -5
I'm guessing that Rollins vs Reigns would have ended up a DQ due to Rollins hitting Reigns with the briefcase.
Then later, when Rollins tried to cash in, Ambrose would have returned then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 10:16:14 GMT -5
That's not creative at all, though. It's most likely more creative then what WWE is probably gonna pull tonight and has done before, is what I'm saying I could be completely wrong, but I'm going to give WWE the benefit of the doubt & say they pulled a fast one on most of us... I think they knew Reigns couldn't go at the PPV & that's why they faced on Raw - if so, clever clever because I sure was confused why they'd let him win clean right before a PPV match
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Post by J12 on Sept 22, 2014 11:02:19 GMT -5
I don't know if this has already been said, but this is going to be a blow to the B crew house shows.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 11:57:16 GMT -5
I hate it for Reigns, I really do. I hate it when anyone gets injured. I know there are a few that despise the guy because he is getting a big push, and they feel he is going to saturate everything wwe just as Cena has for so long. However, I dont understand the hate for him, the creative/booking should be more to blame than anything for this. I personally have nothing against the guy, he is a freak athlete at his size, with a limited, but exciting, move set that will only get better over time. He does still need some work on the mic, but I believe he has shown improvement. I think he also has the potential to turn heel, which would be intriguing, something that they never did with Cena. JMO.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 22, 2014 13:21:38 GMT -5
I know who I'm betting on to win the Royal Rumble now.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 22, 2014 14:01:40 GMT -5
Why's everyone gotta be so hostile? Why are we callin' people worthless here, and the dude yesterday was wishing injury and death on people? Y'all need to get laid. Or find Jesus. Pick one. I'm a HUGE fan of Reigns. Over Ambrose; FAR over Rollins, now. I'm going to miss the guy, and from what I hear, his match against Rusev actually wasn't bad. Not to mention he has had good matches/spots with numerous others. You've got great potential in Ambrose/Reigns as a new Austin/Rock, toss in Bryan getting that Bret Hart love -- Ziggler pulling HBK duties...the future is still very bright. So what if Reigns leads that new pack into the limelight? He can't, and wont be the only talent to make the future shine. Even Super Cena hasn't been the ONLY one to carry the company/belt the past 12 years or so... I think it's less Roman Reigns hate, more immediate gratification. How quickly have we forgotten the fit people threw last year with D Bry's build up to WM. "Why haven't they put the belt on him?" "He should have been champ at ______" "they're missing the boat!" -- then dude pulls double duty at WM, and STILL puts on a great match. For all the hate we throw WWE's way (and I admit I haven't even really tuned in for a month or so now, but I linger here, and read reports, etc) -- more often than not, they really just show us up. Give the brotha a chance, man! He'll get a chance with me when he improves. Take away his look and what do you have? Like I said, a spear and some punches. He's really nothing special, if they don't want to push people with the full package they could at least push people with one talent. Like Rollins, he's only good in the ring, but that's better than nothing. Could you tell me what you like so much about him? Oh, yeah Roman has had good spots, I'd hope so. He's nothing but a spot monkey. I know who I'm betting on to win the Royal Rumble now. You didn't expect him to win before? I thought it was pretty clear he was going to win ever since last years.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 22, 2014 14:22:17 GMT -5
Why's everyone gotta be so hostile? Why are we callin' people worthless here, and the dude yesterday was wishing injury and death on people? Y'all need to get laid. Or find Jesus. Pick one. I'm a HUGE fan of Reigns. Over Ambrose; FAR over Rollins, now. I'm going to miss the guy, and from what I hear, his match against Rusev actually wasn't bad. Not to mention he has had good matches/spots with numerous others. You've got great potential in Ambrose/Reigns as a new Austin/Rock, toss in Bryan getting that Bret Hart love -- Ziggler pulling HBK duties...the future is still very bright. So what if Reigns leads that new pack into the limelight? He can't, and wont be the only talent to make the future shine. Even Super Cena hasn't been the ONLY one to carry the company/belt the past 12 years or so... I think it's less Roman Reigns hate, more immediate gratification. How quickly have we forgotten the fit people threw last year with D Bry's build up to WM. "Why haven't they put the belt on him?" "He should have been champ at ______" "they're missing the boat!" -- then dude pulls double duty at WM, and STILL puts on a great match. For all the hate we throw WWE's way (and I admit I haven't even really tuned in for a month or so now, but I linger here, and read reports, etc) -- more often than not, they really just show us up. Give the brotha a chance, man! He'll get a chance with me when he improves. Take away his look and what do you have? Like I said, a spear and some punches. He's really nothing special, if they don't want to push people with the full package they could at least push people with one talent. Like Rollins, he's only good in the ring, but that's better than nothing. Could you tell me what you like so much about him? Oh, yeah Roman has had good spots, I'd hope so. He's nothing but a spot monkey. I know who I'm betting on to win the Royal Rumble now. You didn't expect him to win before? I thought it was pretty clear he was going to win ever since last years. Yeah, it was obvious. But now I'm willing to bet on it.
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Post by Robert69 on Sept 22, 2014 14:58:19 GMT -5
Why's everyone gotta be so hostile? Why are we callin' people worthless here, and the dude yesterday was wishing injury and death on people? Y'all need to get laid. Or find Jesus. Pick one. I'm a HUGE fan of Reigns. Over Ambrose; FAR over Rollins, now. I'm going to miss the guy, and from what I hear, his match against Rusev actually wasn't bad. Not to mention he has had good matches/spots with numerous others. You've got great potential in Ambrose/Reigns as a new Austin/Rock, toss in Bryan getting that Bret Hart love -- Ziggler pulling HBK duties...the future is still very bright. So what if Reigns leads that new pack into the limelight? He can't, and wont be the only talent to make the future shine. Even Super Cena hasn't been the ONLY one to carry the company/belt the past 12 years or so... I think it's less Roman Reigns hate, more immediate gratification. How quickly have we forgotten the fit people threw last year with D Bry's build up to WM. "Why haven't they put the belt on him?" "He should have been champ at ______" "they're missing the boat!" -- then dude pulls double duty at WM, and STILL puts on a great match. For all the hate we throw WWE's way (and I admit I haven't even really tuned in for a month or so now, but I linger here, and read reports, etc) -- more often than not, they really just show us up. Give the brotha a chance, man! He'll get a chance with me when he improves. Take away his look and what do you have? Like I said, a spear and some punches. He's really nothing special, if they don't want to push people with the full package they could at least push people with one talent. Like Rollins, he's only good in the ring, but that's better than nothing. Could you tell me what you like so much about him? Oh, yeah Roman has had good spots, I'd hope so. He's nothing but a spot monkey. I know who I'm betting on to win the Royal Rumble now. You didn't expect him to win before? I thought it was pretty clear he was going to win ever since last years. Probably nothing that hasn't already been stated. #1 He has a good look. #2 He fits the role designed for him. He'll never be CM Punk in the ring. He's not meant to be. He'll never be The Rock on the mic. He's not meant to be. #3 He's approachable. THAT is what it takes to have star quality, for ANY celebrity. People want to meet them, be around them, associate with them. This was CM Punk's problem. He wasn't exactly big on fan interaction. #4 He seems to legit love the business. I think anyone who dedicates 300 days a year to being on the road doing pro wrestling, away from their homes, friends, and family (especially kids) -- deserves a BIT of respect. It's in his blood. #5 His skill set IS repetitive, but with time, I'm sure he'll be given a chance to expand it. The thing is, people don't really like change. He had a role in the Shield, now the Shield's over, and they're running with Reigns as the potential face of the company. They need to keep it familiar to the fanbase, to an extent, and GRADUALLY change him. #6 You can buy him as a legit contender. There are MAYBE 5 guys on the roster right now, who can go up against Lesnar, and be believable in their storylines. Big Show, Sheamus, Bray Wyatt, Randy Orton, and Roman Reigns. But you buy him as a winner. The dude wins and at worst, all you can say was "He went Super Reigns!"...you can't really ever say "What? He won? How?" -- cause they've established him as just bad ass enough, within the time he's had, to buy it when/if he wins. If someone seems like they WANT to be there. Like they WANT to entertain us, I appreciate that. Nothing irks me worse than entitlement, in anything. You earn where you get too. By him playing the role he's been put in, he's earning it. I think we too often forget that these are actors, for lack of a better term, and an actor can only act so well. The Writers, and Director, and Producers, are equally, if not more so at fault, for what we think of the job they've done.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 22, 2014 16:08:15 GMT -5
He'll get a chance with me when he improves. Take away his look and what do you have? Like I said, a spear and some punches. He's really nothing special, if they don't want to push people with the full package they could at least push people with one talent. Like Rollins, he's only good in the ring, but that's better than nothing. Could you tell me what you like so much about him? Oh, yeah Roman has had good spots, I'd hope so. He's nothing but a spot monkey. You didn't expect him to win before? I thought it was pretty clear he was going to win ever since last years. Probably nothing that hasn't already been stated. #1 He has a good look. #2 He fits the role designed for him. He'll never be CM Punk in the ring. He's not meant to be. He'll never be The Rock on the mic. He's not meant to be. #3 He's approachable. THAT is what it takes to have star quality, for ANY celebrity. People want to meet them, be around them, associate with them. This was CM Punk's problem. He wasn't exactly big on fan interaction. #4 He seems to legit love the business. I think anyone who dedicates 300 days a year to being on the road doing pro wrestling, away from their homes, friends, and family (especially kids) -- deserves a BIT of respect. It's in his blood. #5 His skill set IS repetitive, but with time, I'm sure he'll be given a chance to expand it. The thing is, people don't really like change. He had a role in the Shield, now the Shield's over, and they're running with Reigns as the potential face of the company. They need to keep it familiar to the fanbase, to an extent, and GRADUALLY change him. #6 You can buy him as a legit contender. There are MAYBE 5 guys on the roster right now, who can go up against Lesnar, and be believable in their storylines. Big Show, Sheamus, Bray Wyatt, Randy Orton, and Roman Reigns. But you buy him as a winner. The dude wins and at worst, all you can say was "He went Super Reigns!"...you can't really ever say "What? He won? How?" -- cause they've established him as just bad ass enough, within the time he's had, to buy it when/if he wins. If someone seems like they WANT to be there. Like they WANT to entertain us, I appreciate that. Nothing irks me worse than entitlement, in anything. You earn where you get too. By him playing the role he's been put in, he's earning it. I think we too often forget that these are actors, for lack of a better term, and an actor can only act so well. The Writers, and Director, and Producers, are equally, if not more so at fault, for what we think of the job they've done. He'll never be face of the company with his current skill set, he'll be the 2015 answer to Randy Orton, overpushed based on look. Four out of your six reasons are all based on his look, one is how everyone feels because no one would do this if they don't love it in some way or another, and his repetitive skill set will be what makes fans bored. If they want him to stay over than he needs to keep his current personality because turning him into Cena is just going to turn the casuals against him even quicker. Fans don't want pretty male stripper looking wrestlers anymore, there is a reason why Punk and Bryan were the two most over when they were around, people want talent now. This isn't 1985.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 22, 2014 19:01:08 GMT -5
I don't know if this has already been said, but this is going to be a blow to the B crew house shows. What were the advertised B show main events for the next few weeks? Cena vs Rollins is meant to be the A main, but it wouldn't surprise me if Ambrose vs Rollins headlines the B tour and Cena vs Kane or Orton (or Cena & Show vs Wyatts) is the A tour main. Either way, Ambrose likely replaces Reigns as the B headliner -- so if he's really as over as people claim, the attendance and experience won't suffer.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Sept 22, 2014 21:46:39 GMT -5
Well, you say that, but I know the entire summer of 2012 was Cena/Show/Laurenitis on the top of the card, and what I remember is the fnatastic Punk title matches. And this year the only things that really come to mind at first thought is all the great tag matches we've had this year, even excluding the Shield/Evolution ones since they topped their cards, I remember other stuff. It honestly doesn't matter where someone is on the card, watch and enjoy who you like. Reigns is decent and I enjoy him, and the fact that they've done his push as a slow burn and just started ramping it up in the second half of this year. You can off and cry and bitch into your Ben and Jerry's if it pisses you off so much, and other peoples preferences mean so damn little to you, you stupid, worthless bitch Name calling is not tolerated here. Your post will be edited to reflect that and you have been reported for it. Shame, I had tons of fun writing that post. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 23:34:53 GMT -5
I don't know if this has already been said, but this is going to be a blow to the B crew house shows. What were the advertised B show main events for the next few weeks? Cena vs Rollins is meant to be the A main, but it wouldn't surprise me if Ambrose vs Rollins headlines the B tour and Cena vs Kane or Orton (or Cena & Show vs Wyatts) is the A tour main. Either way, Ambrose likely replaces Reigns as the B headliner -- so if he's really as over as people claim, the attendance and experience won't suffer. Do you not hear or see the crowd?
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Post by J12 on Sept 23, 2014 9:46:12 GMT -5
I don't know if this has already been said, but this is going to be a blow to the B crew house shows. What were the advertised B show main events for the next few weeks? Cena vs Rollins is meant to be the A main, but it wouldn't surprise me if Ambrose vs Rollins headlines the B tour and Cena vs Kane or Orton (or Cena & Show vs Wyatts) is the A tour main. Either way, Ambrose likely replaces Reigns as the B headliner -- so if he's really as over as people claim, the attendance and experience won't suffer. Last I checked, they hadn't pulled Reigns from the schedules yet, so I haven't seen an updated crew. I believe Reigns/Orton was advertised going forward.
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