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Post by bad guy™ on Aug 27, 2014 1:56:46 GMT -5
Same here man......I remember the fantastic match and Punk's amazing return....not much else. Hell in not even sure who Rey beat. I'm assuming Del Rio or R-Truth given the time. I think he beat the Miz. Yep. And I always find it funny that Miz was in that title match. I wonder how different Miz's career would have been if he could have gone around toting that he is a 2 time WWE Champion instead of what some call a flukey run back in 2011. Food for thought. Haha.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 27, 2014 2:14:39 GMT -5
Yep. And I always find it funny that Miz was in that title match. I wonder how different Miz's career would have been if he could have gone around toting that he is a 2 time WWE Champion instead of what some call a flukey run back in 2011. Food for thought. Haha. I wonder how flukey they planned it to be? Considering they gave him MITB, and he held the title for several months. It's just so weird looking back on it. I mean, he main evented WrestleMania! And (cheaply) won! Against Cena!
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Post by Jack on Aug 27, 2014 3:41:57 GMT -5
I remember that. Triple H literally just gave Cena a title match for no apparent reason when Cena came to see him in his office, thus rendering the entire tournament that Rey won pointless. The entire Punk storyline was rushed and botched so horribly after how hot it started off, and it was entirely because of Cena and Triple H. Pretty much sums it up. That angle had SO MUCH POTENTIAL!.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 27, 2014 5:44:51 GMT -5
Yep. And I always find it funny that Miz was in that title match. I wonder how different Miz's career would have been if he could have gone around toting that he is a 2 time WWE Champion instead of what some call a flukey run back in 2011. Food for thought. Haha. I wonder how flukey they planned it to be? Considering they gave him MITB, and he held the title for several months. It's just so weird looking back on it. I mean, he main evented WrestleMania! And (cheaply) won! Against Cena! the win and reign wasn't flukey. it was how they booked his reign that ruined him : - couldn't get past Orton without major help. - couldn't get past JERRY LAWLER without Michael Cole's help! - playing the third man in the WrestleMania storyline between Rock and Cena,even though he was the WWE Champion! - a TERRIBLE Mania main event match. ... it almost felt like they booked his Title reign to b a failure and afterthought to humble him or something.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 27, 2014 5:48:10 GMT -5
as far as Rey goes,he still should've won,then end the Raw with Rey Rey in the ring for an interview segment,interrupted by Triple H saying that Rey's first title defense would be next week on Raw vs Cena. then the next week in the main event Cena takes the Title,then Punk comes out to set up the SS match.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2014 7:45:42 GMT -5
WWE creative really cluttered the whole thing. Especially considering Rey won it from Miz, fought off Del Rio cashing in MITB, & then had to defend it against Cena all in one night. Then to top it off Punk returned later with the WWE title. So the whole tournament & giving Cena the title was a waste. Odd booking to say the least.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 27, 2014 7:49:29 GMT -5
I always thought it was quite the Heel-ish act of Cena using his rematch-clause the same night the Champion already had a match. They should of just had Cena in the Tournament or something in the first place. John Cena wasn't in the tournament because it started the night after Money in the Bank 2011 and he was "fired" after losing the title. He was re-hired at the end of that Raw though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 8:12:33 GMT -5
I always thought it was quite the Heel-ish act of Cena using his rematch-clause the same night the Champion already had a match. They should of just had Cena in the Tournament or something in the first place. John Cena wasn't in the tournament because it started the night after Money in the Bank 2011 and he was "fired" after losing the title. He was re-hired at the end of that Raw though. It felt so good when Cena got fired I was like
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Post by Kanenite on Aug 27, 2014 8:26:27 GMT -5
I always thought it was quite the Heel-ish act of Cena using his rematch-clause the same night the Champion already had a match. They should of just had Cena in the Tournament or something in the first place. John Cena wasn't in the tournament because it started the night after Money in the Bank 2011 and he was "fired" after losing the title. He was re-hired at the end of that Raw though. Aahh! That was it. Now I remember.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 27, 2014 11:45:37 GMT -5
It counts.
I love how quickly this thread turned into being CM Punk-sentric. lol
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 27, 2014 13:09:22 GMT -5
WWE creative really cluttered the whole thing. Especially considering Rey won it from Miz, fought off Del Rio cashing in MITB, & then had to defend it against Cena all in one night. Then to top it off Punk returned later with the WWE title. So the whole tournament & giving Cena the title was a waste. Odd booking to say the least. Here is the thing with all of that, Punk wasn't even supposed to be around post MITB, let alone be champion. So I'm of the opinion that they were making the sh*t up as they went along at that point in time, which is seemingly obvious based on what ended up being on TV. However, to me at least, Rey winning the title wasn't the issue, and even Cena taking it from him in the same night wasn't the issue, the issue for me was how they handled Alberto Del Rio from SummerSlam on. The guy should never have cashed-in after SummerSlam and it really screwed the entire direction of the title picture until Survivor Series when they finally just went with Punk. To the point where they had to put the title on Cena again to avoid Del Rio carrying the ball before they put it on Del Rio to transition it to Punk. It was just way overbooked. We should have seen something more like this: Rey is forced to defend his newly won title against Cena on Raw. Del Rio interferes, costs Rey the title. Punk vs Cena, title vs title showdown. SummerSlam happens exactly the same way, minus the Del Rio cash-in. At Night of Champions, Del Rio interferes in the match and causes a no finish. Cena and Punk double team Del Rio to close the show. (House show finish) At Hell in a Cell, we get Punk vs Del Rio vs Cena, and Punk pins Del Rio. Nash interferes after the match. Del Rio cashes-in. At Vengeance, we get Punk vs Nash (or HHH pending Nash's health) with Punk going over and the same main event as we actually got, so Del Rio going over Cena. Survivor Series, Punk beats Del Rio for the title exactly like he did. Del Rio's run is over and 434 days of glory begins. WWE wanted to make Del Rio champion for the Mexico tour that year and this sticks to that plan without so much hot potato with the title. This only works in retrospect though. WWE didn't trust CM Punk yet, they didn't have a longterm plan in place, and they still needed to force the title onto Del Rio before October 12th. So I have less of a problem with the tournament and the Rey situation than I do with how WWE adjusted to Punk over the following months. I can give them a week or two to figure it out and be ok with some booking chaos but after that point there should have been a plan for Punk, and they really didn't have one.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 27, 2014 13:36:10 GMT -5
Yep, that was something. Can't believe he lost it in an hour. Jesus. Just swap the punk shirt for a ryback shirt at the end and that's my life in a GIF
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 27, 2014 13:39:25 GMT -5
I remember that. Triple H literally just gave Cena a title match for no apparent reason when Cena came to see him in his office, thus rendering the entire tournament that Rey won pointless. The entire Punk storyline was rushed and botched so horribly after how hot it started off, and it was entirely because of Cena and Triple H. But back in the real world, it was rushed because they needed a SummerSlam main event.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:55:14 GMT -5
Yeah 7-25-11
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 14:19:53 GMT -5
It was sh*t.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 27, 2014 14:51:24 GMT -5
I remember that. Triple H literally just gave Cena a title match for no apparent reason when Cena came to see him in his office, thus rendering the entire tournament that Rey won pointless. The entire Punk storyline was rushed and botched so horribly after how hot it started off, and it was entirely because of Cena and Triple H. But back in the real world, it was rushed because they needed a SummerSlam main event. Umm, no. They could've held Punk's return off for longer than a week. And then having Punk get put into a random, pointless feud with Triple H and Kevin Nash while Superman got to feud for the title after SummerSlam was equally as stupid, too.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 27, 2014 14:59:26 GMT -5
They could've held Punk's return off for longer than a week. Yeah, they could have held it off for two weeks, but they still needed a SummerSlam main event and even if Punk had been gone for two weeks, everybody who complained would still have complained.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 27, 2014 18:42:13 GMT -5
They could've held Punk's return off for longer than a week. Yeah, they could have held it off for two weeks, but they still needed a SummerSlam main event and even if Punk had been gone for two weeks, everybody who complained would still have complained. They could've kept him off TV until SummerSlam. Triple H makes it Rey versus Superman at SummerSlam and then just as the match is about to begin he announces he struck a last minute deal to bring Punk back, adds him to the match and Punk wins cleanly to become the undisputed WWE Champion. Although, in that scenario the focus wouldn't have been squarely on Cena or Triple H...so, you know, it had zero chance of happening.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 27, 2014 18:50:39 GMT -5
While I understand the need for a big SummerSlam main event and the fact that CM Punk vs. John Cena was absolute money, Rey Mysterio vs John Cena could've headlined. Two of the most marketable guys who NEVER had a PPV match together.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2014 18:58:30 GMT -5
In a perfect world they would have held off on Punk returning. Then I would have had him interfere every time WWE tried to crown a new champion. No Rey WWE title win, no Cena as champ. No champion till Punk eventually returned. But I can understand Punk was red hot and it would have been foolish for WWE to have him gone for so long.
Anybody can look back and criticize in hindsight. Some do it too much.
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