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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 26, 2014 0:50:56 GMT -5
As far as better material....I agree. You'd have to be insane not to.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 26, 2014 8:47:50 GMT -5
lol If you like that sort of thing, that's cool. Personally, if I was going to write my promos on my hand so I remembered them, I'd want better material. Rock is a Hollywood high grossing movie star, I doubt he would need to write his promo on his hand. So was that done for the benefit of the feud?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 9:25:12 GMT -5
Rock is a Hollywood high grossing movie star, I doubt he would need to write his promo on his hand. So was that done for the benefit of the feud? Being as WWE knew Cena had zero chance with the fans, probably so.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 26, 2014 11:05:12 GMT -5
Rock is a Hollywood high grossing movie star, I doubt he would need to write his promo on his hand. So was that done for the benefit of the feud? All of the lameness was either done on purpose or it was because of the magical PG handcuffs, depending on which excuse someone feels like making at any given moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 11:56:20 GMT -5
So was that done for the benefit of the feud? All of the lameness was either done on purpose or it was because of the magical PG handcuffs, depending on which excuse someone feels like making at any given moment. So..you think...Rock just actually fails that much in comparison to your boy? Because if so, you're delusional. But I almost forgot. You know everything.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 26, 2014 12:26:02 GMT -5
Thanks. But it's probably just that I seem smarter in comparison to anyone who thinks The Rock sucked on purpose in his big comeback feuds after seven years away. Think about the steps in this conspiracy: His promos hyping huge PPV matches were weak on purpose to make Cena and Punk's look better... He destroyed his own credibility by writing notes on his hand just to give John Cena one zinger in one promo... Punk and others only pretended to be crybabies about Rock's schedule and attitude just to make Cena look like a nicer guy... Rock got winded and injured three minutes into his matches on purpose to make Cena and Punk's conditioning look better... And so on and so forth. Even the "9/11 was an inside job" guys would think this PG handcuffs John Cena conspiracy is a little far-fetched.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 13:30:12 GMT -5
Thanks. But it's probably just that I seem smarter in comparison to anyone who thinks The Rock sucked on purpose in his big comeback feuds after seven years away. Think about the steps in this conspiracy: His promos hyping huge PPV matches were weak on purpose to make Cena and Punk's look better... He destroyed his own credibility by writing notes on his hand just to give John Cena one zinger in one promo... Punk and others only pretended to be crybabies about Rock's schedule and attitude just to make Cena look like a nicer guy... Rock got winded and injured three minutes into his matches on purpose to make Cena and Punk's conditioning look better... And so on and so forth. Even the "9/11 was an inside job" guys would think this PG handcuffs John Cena conspiracy is a little far-fetched. Lol it's funny that if it's not pro-Cena then it's deemed a conspiracy.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 26, 2014 13:54:30 GMT -5
Lol it's funny that if it's not pro-Cena then it's deemed a conspiracy. Swing and a miss.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Aug 26, 2014 14:03:26 GMT -5
Thanks. But it's probably just that I seem smarter in comparison to anyone who thinks The Rock sucked on purpose in his big comeback feuds after seven years away. Think about the steps in this conspiracy: His promos hyping huge PPV matches were weak on purpose to make Cena and Punk's look better... He destroyed his own credibility by writing notes on his hand just to give John Cena one zinger in one promo... Punk and others only pretended to be crybabies about Rock's schedule and attitude just to make Cena look like a nicer guy... Rock got winded and injured three minutes into his matches on purpose to make Cena and Punk's conditioning look better... And so on and so forth. Even the "9/11 was an inside job" guys would think this PG handcuffs John Cena conspiracy is a little far-fetched. Lol it's funny that if it's not pro-Cena then it's deemed a conspiracy. We need a great John Cena supporter like Next Win's Sixteen to counteract all the Cena haters.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Aug 26, 2014 14:23:22 GMT -5
Thanks. But it's probably just that I seem smarter in comparison to anyone who thinks The Rock sucked on purpose in his big comeback feuds after seven years away. Think about the steps in this conspiracy: His promos hyping huge PPV matches were weak on purpose to make Cena and Punk's look better... He destroyed his own credibility by writing notes on his hand just to give John Cena one zinger in one promo... Punk and others only pretended to be crybabies about Rock's schedule and attitude just to make Cena look like a nicer guy... Rock got winded and injured three minutes into his matches on purpose to make Cena and Punk's conditioning look better... And so on and so forth. Even the "9/11 was an inside job" guys would think this PG handcuffs John Cena conspiracy is a little far-fetched. Lol it's funny that if it's not pro-Cena then it's deemed a conspiracy. If you a bring back a main attraction, why would you purposefully have them be off their game? In an Era where the Main Event is almost the only thing bring people in, why would you have one of the two guys in your Main Event purposefully not putting in 100%? Rock was never all that versatile, so taking away vulgar limits the hell out of him. At the same time, when has Rock ever been all that entertaining without making fun of someone? He was never Austin, he was never Savage, he was never Foley, he was never Punk, he was never Heyman, he was never Flair, he was never Jericho, and he was never even Raven (IMO). And everyone needs to remember that it is much easier to be entertaining when you are aloud to be vulgar, when you aren't censored.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 14:49:25 GMT -5
Why does WWE do half the sh*t they do? Half doesn't make sense. They drop storylines. They "bury" talent.
Are you telling me that it's not true? Or at least beleivable for them to do so?
They try SO HARD to get Cena accepted into the fanbase that boos him so heavily. WWE logic would be "hey, let's let him get some stuff over the Rock and maybe they'll see him for what we want them to."
I'm not even a Rock fan, but it's pretty obvious to me the stuff WWE does on purpose.
Is everyone disregarding the fact WWE writes Rock's stuff. Apparently they always have. So when he's scripted like that, "he can't hold his own, or wasn't what he used to be" or any of that BS? That is BS. Rock had nights when he was "on" and he was firing on all cylinders. Then he'd come out again to get made a fool of. That's how it was scripted folks.
Cena lovers can say what they want, but you want to make statements about Rock's stuff was scripted then you want to make it out like Cena killed Rock promo wise but blame Rock for not having it anymore instead of relying on the material that you came to dance with.
Were Rock's promos scripted?
Or were they not?
If they were, then it's 100% all storyline and it would take a moronic John Cena fan to not understand that.
Like Cena all you want vut there's a reason why there's still part timers and guys like Rock and Brock. And that's simplt because Cena can't carry an already dwindling fanbase like his fans think.
He's the top star of the era where wrestling fans decline in numbers. Not something to be proud of. He's not the star he, his fans, and especially WWE thinks he is.
I'll take part timers and scripted promos over jorts and the most stale character since 1993 Hogan. Any day of the week. And twice on Sunday.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 26, 2014 16:39:48 GMT -5
If you a bring back a main attraction, why would you purposefully have them be off their game? Exactly. "Hey Rock, here's a ton of money -- now make sure you cut weak promos and blow up five minutes into your matches to make the current guys look good!" But I guess for some folks, concocting a weird conspiracy excuse like that is easier than taking off the rose-tinted attitude era glasses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 18:36:32 GMT -5
Each to their own, but I enjoyed every second of The Rock's return - on the mic and in the ring. Same as this......I guess I'm just easily pleased.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 26, 2014 23:59:41 GMT -5
Lol it's funny that if it's not pro-Cena then it's deemed a conspiracy. We need a great John Cena supporter like Next Win's Sixteen to counteract all the Cena haters. No we dont. What we need is honesty. If Next Win is a Cena supporter than good for him. But I dont want him to just support Cena just to counteract Cena hate. All that does is cause unnecessary arguments. More people need to develop their own opinions and use facts to support them and not just agree with the majority.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 27, 2014 0:57:37 GMT -5
It's because it's not 1999 anymore, and his "popcorn farts" and "ladyparts" material was as lame as "JBL is poopy." For years, people had thought The Rock coming back would be great, and it was at first, but he was utterly embarrassed and shown up on the microphone by the current stars. He was supposed to be a great saviour from the attitude era, but he got there and he couldn't hang with Punk or even Cena. Fixed. It was rather surprising that he couldn't really hang with Cena... it was no suprise that he couldn't hang with Punk.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 27, 2014 2:25:03 GMT -5
he clearly doesn't care
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Post by Word™ on Aug 27, 2014 3:12:15 GMT -5
Oh look.. It's this thread.....
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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2014 9:31:48 GMT -5
I always felt Rock was more a stick man than a great in ring talent. His promos are what made him a household name but his in ring work was average at best. Since his return he was still moderately entertaining, but more often than not he was stale on the mic. His schtick was exactly the same.
Punk and Cena saw through that, and ate him up. Even the Cena haters & Attitude Era fans realized it, but still refused to admit it.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 27, 2014 11:14:18 GMT -5
All the Rock did was prove how sorry WWE has become. Even at 40, he is still better than Cena, Orton, and Batista combined. He absolutely humiliated Cena every time they were face to face. The real shortcoming is the fact that WWE has to keep reaching to the past for aging stars to compensate for their lack of insight. If WWE would build more stars, guys like Rock and Lesnar could be special attractions instead of the championship focus.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 27, 2014 11:17:50 GMT -5
I always felt Rock was more a stick man than a great in ring talent. His promos are what made him a household name but his in ring work was average at best. Since his return he was still moderately entertaining, but more often than not he was stale on the mic. His schtick was exactly the same. Punk and Cena saw through that, and ate him up. Even the Cena haters & Attitude Era fans realized it, but still refused to admit it. You win this thread.
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