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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 22:22:05 GMT -5
Because Kurt Angle won an Olympic gold medal with a broken ing neck. Anyway.. Alcohol? It's legal. Pain killers? Proscribed by doctors. Legal Abused? Most likely. That is illegal. On the flip side: Cocaine? Illegal. Marijuana? Illegal. Whatever the hell else Jeff Hardy was on? Most likely illegal. Plus alcohol and painkillers. Olympic Gold Medalist. Remembered for classic wrestling matches. Spot monkey. Remembered for jumping off ladders and going through tables. Just saying. That really doesn't set him apart from the pack. Whether the substances are legal, or illegal, they're still highly addictive, and dangerous. If he drinks, gets in a car, and ends up killing himself, or someone else, is that any different than if Hardy OD-ed on whatever he was on? And I don't remember Jeff Hardy as a 'spot monkey' -- I remember Jeff Hardy as a bigger star, and name, than CM Punk or Daniel Bryan could have wished to be at one point in time. Winning a Gold Medal doesn't make him untouchable. Respectable? Certainly. But 'all is forgiven'? Again, I like both, and would love to see both back. But I simply don't agree with 'one's forgiven because he won a gold medal; the other one just jumps off of things.' as being the only reason one is welcome back, and the other should be shunned. Lol Hardy being a bigger star than Punk or Bryan at any point in time means nothing to me bud. I'm not a Indy bandwagoner. Stuff like that definitely doesn't upset me. So you're basing stuff off whether it's addictive or not? So, what's next? Cigarettes?
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Aug 24, 2014 22:27:10 GMT -5
I stand corrected Courtesy of wiki "Angle stated in the Kurt Angle: Champion documentary DVD that he asked for his release from WWE because he couldn't take time off and was working hurt, severely on some occasions. He also states that when he quit, WWE lost their very top talent, as he was at the very top of the payroll." Wwe lost their very top talent? Damn guess Cena, Edge, Batista, Taker, Michaels, Triple H, Flair and Orton weren't around at the time He must have meant skill wise.
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Post by Robert69 on Aug 24, 2014 22:27:09 GMT -5
That really doesn't set him apart from the pack. Whether the substances are legal, or illegal, they're still highly addictive, and dangerous. If he drinks, gets in a car, and ends up killing himself, or someone else, is that any different than if Hardy OD-ed on whatever he was on? And I don't remember Jeff Hardy as a 'spot monkey' -- I remember Jeff Hardy as a bigger star, and name, than CM Punk or Daniel Bryan could have wished to be at one point in time. Winning a Gold Medal doesn't make him untouchable. Respectable? Certainly. But 'all is forgiven'? Again, I like both, and would love to see both back. But I simply don't agree with 'one's forgiven because he won a gold medal; the other one just jumps off of things.' as being the only reason one is welcome back, and the other should be shunned. Lol Hardy being a bigger star than Punk or Bryan at any point in time means nothing to me bud. I'm not a Indy bandwagoner. Stuff like that definitely doesn't upset me. So you're basing stuff off whether it's addictive or not? So, what's next? Cigarettes? If your addiction keeps you from being able to do your job, then yes. Anything can count. Food. Cigarettes. Booze. Hard drugs. They're interchangeable when you get to the point that you can't stop yourself, or feel you NEED them to survive. The difference between legal/illegal being the only thing making it alright for one to be addicted, and the other not, is a fairly poor basis, in my opinion. They BOTH have needed help, and had dark moments. So what makes what Hardy has done so much worse than Angle, to the point people would say one is welcome back, and the other isn't? Because his addiction was to something illegal? If people say "because I like Angle, and I don't like Hardy" -- cool. Honesty, I can get behind. But are we really justifying one as being better off than the other, because he happened to drink a ton of booze, rather than shoot up?
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Post by Captain Charisma on Aug 24, 2014 22:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 24, 2014 22:47:55 GMT -5
Hardy should just flat out sign a 3 year deal and return full-time. Kurt needs his last run, 6-8 months or so, maybe even a year if done correctly. Ziggler, Bryan, Rollins, I mean there are matches there I definitely want to see. All that TMZ bullish*t needs to be checked out the door. Like they are the first two wrestlers in history with issues. Give me a break. Two extremely talented guys who need to get back to being on top.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 22:50:56 GMT -5
I'd prefer Matt over Jeff any day
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 23:07:04 GMT -5
Lol Hardy being a bigger star than Punk or Bryan at any point in time means nothing to me bud. I'm not a Indy bandwagoner. Stuff like that definitely doesn't upset me. So you're basing stuff off whether it's addictive or not? So, what's next? Cigarettes? If your addiction keeps you from being able to do your job, then yes. Anything can count. Food. Cigarettes. Booze. Hard drugs. They're interchangeable when you get to the point that you can't stop yourself, or feel you NEED them to survive. The difference between legal/illegal being the only thing making it alright for one to be addicted, and the other not, is a fairly poor basis, in my opinion. They BOTH have needed help, and had dark moments. So what makes what Hardy has done so much worse than Angle, to the point people would say one is welcome back, and the other isn't? Because his addiction was to something illegal? If people say "because I like Angle, and I don't like Hardy" -- cool. Honesty, I can get behind. But are we really justifying one as being better off than the other, because he happened to drink a ton of booze, rather than shoot up? Okay I'll straight shoot. I like Kurt and dislike Jeff
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Post by slappy on Aug 24, 2014 23:12:14 GMT -5
No.
I don't want to watch him die in the middle of the ring.
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Post by Robert69 on Aug 24, 2014 23:16:18 GMT -5
Hardy should just flat out sign a 3 year deal and return full-time. Kurt needs his last run, 6-8 months or so, maybe even a year if done correctly. Ziggler, Bryan, Rollins, I mean there are matches there I definitely want to see. All that TMZ bullish*t needs to be checked out the door. Like they are the first two wrestlers in history with issues. Give me a break. Two extremely talented guys who need to get back to being on top. Hardy/Wyatt could be IMMENSELY entertaining, depending on how Hardy's personality was when he came back. And their stuff could be on Bryan/Wyatt level of quality, too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 23:24:41 GMT -5
Hardy should just flat out sign a 3 year deal and return full-time. Kurt needs his last run, 6-8 months or so, maybe even a year if done correctly. Ziggler, Bryan, Rollins, I mean there are matches there I definitely want to see. All that TMZ bullish*t needs to be checked out the door. Like they are the first two wrestlers in history with issues. Give me a break. Two extremely talented guys who need to get back to being on top. Don't get my hopes up.
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Aug 25, 2014 0:13:25 GMT -5
I would guess there are still kinda bad blood about how he left. They let him go for his own good and he turned right around and signed with TNA. How he managed to get out of his deal is beyond me, could he have bought out his own contract just to get out of there after they let him go? There's no other way he could have gotten around the no compete clause otherwise. There's no doubt in my mind that there's still some hurt feelings about the whole situation though.
On the other hand, he's clearly and asset to ANY company even at his age and he deserves one last run before his time in the ring is done. I'll put it this way... imagine in next year's Rumble if Rusev has dominating everyone and is standing alone in the ring awaiting the next entrant, then Angle's music hits. That could be one of the biggest reactions in YEARS.
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Post by k5 on Aug 25, 2014 0:22:34 GMT -5
i'd have him be a guest referee for one of lesnar's matches, given the history it'd be an easy way to bring him back in for a final goodbye even if it's not in a wrestling capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 0:47:14 GMT -5
He wouldn't pass the wellness test I agree. Kurt said on JR's podcast that WWE's wellness test wouldn't be an issue for him but...I think it would. If Edge and Foley failed then I can only assume Angle would also.
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Post by Mirror Images on Aug 25, 2014 6:02:48 GMT -5
Id like to seem him come back at Royal Rumble and then retire after one final Wrestlemania match, maybe as a face vs Rusev.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 25, 2014 7:07:49 GMT -5
He wouldn't pass the wellness test I agree. Kurt said on JR's podcast that WWE's wellness test wouldn't be an issue for him but...I think it would. If Edge and Foley failed then I can only assume Angle would also. Didn't Hulk Hogan fail it too?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 7:12:54 GMT -5
I agree. Kurt said on JR's podcast that WWE's wellness test wouldn't be an issue for him but...I think it would. If Edge and Foley failed then I can only assume Angle would also. Didn't Hulk Hogan fail it too? Yeah I think you're right.
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Post by RV F'N D on Aug 25, 2014 9:37:19 GMT -5
I'd love to have Angle come back for a run if he can do it. I don't care about his issues, lots of peeps have those. Same goes for the Hardys and Dudleys.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Aug 25, 2014 9:45:55 GMT -5
I dont really like Angle, but the talent on the roster at the moment / upcoming talent I think Kurt could have some great matches, and obvs the merch would come in handy. I'd say yes
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Post by J12 on Aug 25, 2014 10:18:25 GMT -5
There are few things I want to see more than Kurt Angle finish his career with WWE. One of the greatest of all time.
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Post by Sky'sTheLimit on Aug 25, 2014 10:29:59 GMT -5
It'd be nice to see Angle back in a WWE ring, just not sure where he would fit in.
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