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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 0:40:35 GMT -5
Would have likes to have seen it happen
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 22, 2014 1:12:22 GMT -5
When he feuded with Hart in the early 90's he would have been a believable champ. Watching some of his work from back then, I could see him with the title.
I also thought that they were going to give him the title during his feud with Miz as a "thank you" thing, but they did not.
He probably should have, but I understand why he did not. I could be wrong though.
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Post by King Silva on Apr 22, 2014 1:12:24 GMT -5
No way should he have won it.
If anyone was to win it off of Miz (to then lose it in a month or so) I'd have wanted it to be John Morrison.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 2:19:37 GMT -5
He was winding down by the time he came to WWE. If he came in the early 80s I could see him holding it for awhile, maybe taking a chunk out of Backlund's reign.
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Post by k5 on Apr 22, 2014 2:27:24 GMT -5
his style of wrestling and his look was generally dated by the time he surfaced in the wwf, i think that's what made him a go-to heel initially.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 2:43:00 GMT -5
In the hot-potato current era he should have won it from the Miz.
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Post by Himmy! on Apr 22, 2014 4:47:52 GMT -5
Na I don't think he should have ever won it. Like previously mentioned he was winding down by the time he came to WWE.
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Post by Slim on Apr 22, 2014 4:52:47 GMT -5
Yes, I was hoping that he would beat the miz.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 6:39:56 GMT -5
Nah. Not necessary.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 22, 2014 7:18:20 GMT -5
I've never liked Jerry Lawler. Period. I never saw his USWA stuff so maybe I missed something but his early 90s WWF ring work was bad . I've never seen a good Lawler match. And don't even get me started on how bad he is on commentary.
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Post by Brad on Apr 22, 2014 7:27:42 GMT -5
I've never liked Jerry Lawler. Period. I never saw his USWA stuff so maybe I missed something but his early 90s WWF ring work was bad . I've never seen a good Lawler match. And don't even get me started on how bad he is on commentary. You've missed A LOT. Anyone who judges him just off his WWF/E run should put down the gavel and cease their judgement. He was my childhood hero so some might say I'm bias in my opinion but even the likes of JR and Stone Cold constantly praise his work in Memphis. With that being said, yes I would have loved to have seen him get a short run with it. It's a shame he never carried any gold in WWF/E he should have at the very least held the IC title in the 90's and the fact that he didn't get a WM match until 27th when he was past his prime is just a crime.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 22, 2014 7:47:50 GMT -5
Nope. There was never a time when he should have won the title. Even if he'd gone to the WWF in 1985, he was never a better choice as champion than Hogan, Savage, Warrior etc. And by the nineties, Lawler was just an old guy and commentator.
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Post by Midnight on Apr 22, 2014 8:04:40 GMT -5
Yeah I think he should have been WWE champion at least once.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 22, 2014 8:20:53 GMT -5
I've never liked Jerry Lawler. Period. I never saw his USWA stuff so maybe I missed something but his early 90s WWF ring work was bad . I've never seen a good Lawler match. And don't even get me started on how bad he is on commentary. You've missed A LOT. Anyone who judges him just off his WWF/E run should put down the gavel and cease their judgement. He was my childhood hero so some might say I'm bias in my opinion but even the likes of JR and Stone Cold constantly praise his work in Memphis. With that being said, yes I would have loved to have seen him get a short run with it. It's a shame he never carried any gold in WWF/E he should have at the very least held the IC title in the 90's and the fact that he didn't get a WM match until 27th when he was past his prime is just a crime. I might try to seek out some of his older stuff, but based on what I've seen, it's all bad. I won't judge anything before WWF though.
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Post by Brad on Apr 22, 2014 8:29:23 GMT -5
You've missed A LOT. Anyone who judges him just off his WWF/E run should put down the gavel and cease their judgement. He was my childhood hero so some might say I'm bias in my opinion but even the likes of JR and Stone Cold constantly praise his work in Memphis. With that being said, yes I would have loved to have seen him get a short run with it. It's a shame he never carried any gold in WWF/E he should have at the very least held the IC title in the 90's and the fact that he didn't get a WM match until 27th when he was past his prime is just a crime. I might try to seek out some of his older stuff, but based on what I've seen, it's all bad. I won't judge anything before WWF though. What is your criteria for someone being bad? His moves were really basic but that's a product of the time that he came up. But IMO that shouldn't matter. He's one of the best storytellers in the ring that the business has ever seen. And he knew damn well how to work a crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 8:29:39 GMT -5
In the early 90s when he arrived he wasn't an option because he was semi retired and suffering from all sorts of injuries and nags.
When he faced Miz he certainly wasn't an option.....
Lawler(in his day) was one of the most versatile brawlers out there. He was a great worker and if all you have seen of "The King" is his WWF 90s stuff you haven't seen him at all.
Look up Lawler vs Eddie Gilbert(another phenomenal worker) from Memphis.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 22, 2014 8:31:43 GMT -5
I might try to seek out some of his older stuff, but based on what I've seen, it's all bad. I won't judge anything before WWF though. What is your criteria for someone being bad? His moves were really basic but that's a product of the time that he came up. But IMO that shouldn't matter. He's one of the best storytellers in the ring that the business has ever seen. And he knew damn well how to work a crowd. It's not about his moveset, I understood that they were basic. I never enjoyed any match that I've seen of his. Even his stuff with Bret Hart during the mid 90's always bored me to death. Maybe he's just not my style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 8:34:15 GMT -5
Nah, Lawler didn't really need the title. He gets over just being the "King". And like it was said. He was brought in to be on commentary at first and only wrestled once in a while basically. I don't see any timeline where Lawler should have ever been WWF/WWE champion. I do think he should have won at WrestleMania, so at least he could have shut up about never wrestling on the card.
I've seen a lot of his Memphis stuff and Lawler is really the "King" down there. But it makes you think how Lawler would have fared if he wasn't the booker who gave himself all those title reigns. Also I wonder if it weren't for Andy Kaufman, would we really know who the King is?
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 22, 2014 13:27:08 GMT -5
I have wondered this myself sometimes. He could have had a title run at some point.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 22, 2014 15:29:23 GMT -5
Lawler has never been much more than a comedy act in WWE. A mostly unfunny one at that. He was a decent hand as a mid-carder during the New Generation but outside of like two hot matches against Bret Hart, he wasn't someone fans would actually pay to see.
On a side note, I wish he would have retired as a commentator like 15 years ago. He's been unbearably bad for at least the last 10.
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