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Post by Danger10 on Apr 14, 2014 13:39:51 GMT -5
Mattel saying "Hey ya know what'll sell? If we pack another Cena repaint, Del Rio, Sheamus, Blue Punk or Mysterio in every set and make them 5 per case!" I seriously hope they realize that nobody buys Sheamus or Del Rio. They never sell. My Target usually immediately sells out of figures within 24 hours of putting a new case out but the figures that warm? Del Rio. And only Del Rio. Kids and collectors do not want him. He didn't sell when he was a face and sure as hell won't when he's a heel. Scalpers are a big part too. It's irritating to know that somebody can call the store, ask them what they have and have them put aside certain figures. That's laziness and takes away from the thrill of the hunt for somebody else. And for what? So they can make a buck? Literally they're probably only making a buck because of eBay fees. What's the point? That's all there is around here. My wal-mart usually has 3 or 4 different guys - always Sheamus & Del Rio. Lol there's been an elite Del Rio at my Hastings for over a year lol
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Post by CodebreakerDX on Apr 14, 2014 13:45:11 GMT -5
My first Mattel figure (Basic 5 Sheamus) came from TRU, now it seems that each time i go there i am bound to see old sets (And not the good figures of old sets, believe me) One time i walked in and there was literally a wall of red, green and white Del Rio. if i would've had a barf bag i would've used it.
I always find the best figures at Super Kmart, Wal-Mart (ugh) and on occasion, Target. I only go to TRU if i have the slightest glimmer of hope something will be different...only to be disappointed again.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Apr 14, 2014 15:55:24 GMT -5
Mattel saying "Hey ya know what'll sell? If we pack another Cena repaint, Del Rio, Sheamus, Blue Punk or Mysterio in every set and make them 5 per case!" I seriously hope they realize that nobody buys Sheamus or Del Rio. They never sell. My Target usually immediately sells out of figures within 24 hours of putting a new case out but the figures that warm? Del Rio. And only Del Rio. Kids and collectors do not want him. He didn't sell when he was a face and sure as hell won't when he's a heel. Scalpers are a big part too. It's irritating to know that somebody can call the store, ask them what they have and have them put aside certain figures. That's laziness and takes away from the thrill of the hunt for somebody else. And for what? So they can make a buck? Literally they're probably only making a buck because of eBay fees. What's the point? My Sheamus broke and I needed another one lol lucky for us there are a million so I got a new one lol
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 14, 2014 15:58:12 GMT -5
Chinese New Year
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 14, 2014 16:14:48 GMT -5
It's because the line was still new back then.evey set had new characters and if it was a repaint people still got it. I don't think there was an elite repaint til around series 6 and even then it wasn't like now. How many cena,orton,sheamus,del rio, and the list goes on do people really want? Look at the BAF and it's the same 3 guys repainted and a fourth new one that's always the hot seller. I don't think scalpers are the problem as much as it is Mattel packing cases with crap figures more to a case and harder to find figures less.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Apr 14, 2014 16:16:32 GMT -5
My TRU rarely stocks anything WWE related that is not exclusive to their store (BAF sets).
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 14, 2014 16:37:11 GMT -5
Maybe they send back all the ones with huge factory errors. That'd leave a handful on the shelves.
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Post by Flair Forever on Apr 14, 2014 21:56:22 GMT -5
I miss Kay Bee Toys... that place always had rows and rows of wrestling figure.... I used to spend an hour in there just trying to decide what to buy.
Now, I spend an hour driving from store-to-store because there's nothing to buy.
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Post by CAT-ion Figures on Apr 14, 2014 23:21:58 GMT -5
Losers, aka scalpers, aka people who contribute nothing to society, actually aren't as bad as they were back in the jakks classic days. Granted they still suck, but a bigger problem is the way Mattel packs these cases. I've seen cases of elite 27 with NO rikishi. Are you kidding me? The most popular figure in the set and you don't include him? Ridiculous.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Apr 14, 2014 23:48:29 GMT -5
What happened? I mean remember the days where you walk into toys r us (2010) and they would have full elite series of series 3,4,5 and basic series full of 4,5,6. What happened? Now we walk into toys r us and they only have the shelf warmers of elite series(if they have elites) and aren't stacked to the brim like 2010. So why do isn't the stores stacked with a wide variety of series like 2010? My guess would be that Mattel has won. They crushed Jakks and Playmates so they are the lone wrestling toy on shelves. So they prob dont pump out as much product as before? I would think they put more focus on lines that are struggling and not so much on toy lines that are doing well. That's just my guess though, I could be wrong. If anything, they've put out more and more sets every year. Unfortunately there's been more and more repaints (an effect of the fact that in 2010, basically every set had new characters because the line was just starting).
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 15, 2014 1:43:52 GMT -5
To be honest the biggest problem I see with tru is the baf sets. For the most part I like them, but they hit soft way early, then they hit Waaaaay too hard. The Cole series was just really bad besides the Bret. The Ricardo set was half good, but the bad half is STILL warming at my tru. The Johnny set was awesome all around, but that was the first example of a soft hit early followed by a ridiculously hard hit like four months later, when most collectors only need like one out two guys to finish the set, if they haven't just bought the leftover pieces online. The Heyman set was really good too (besides the Cena which was far too similar to the Johnny one, but again, soft early hit, hard late hit. At most trus today I see the Heyman set either with or without Bryan. The JR set is one I would put above the Ricardo set but below the Heyman set. If the last two sets are indicators they will trickle in over the next two months, then there will be waaaay too many three or four months later. The only regular elite series figures I saw were four Henrys.
As for basics, similarly there were tons of Booker and Teddy figures left over. I think those are the main problem because they take up do much shelf space.
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 15, 2014 20:06:59 GMT -5
Seems pretty logical reason actually I would think Hot Wheels out sell WWE, both are made by mattel. If you ever pay attention to Hot Wheels there are periods of time where stores will have little to nothing on shelves. So if Hot Wheels go so light on shelves what can you expect for wwe figs? The same at best I would think. Good point about Hot Wheels. Mattel makes mistakes with Hot Wheels as well. Sometimes Mattel will repaint an Iconic car that makes no sense such as a purple Dodge Lil Red Express, or a Maroon Buick Grand National, or a Red DeLorean DMC-12. Obviously kids wouldn't give a hoot about the stupid repaints of cars that were never painted in those colors back when the actual car companies made them in the 1980s, but the collectors just groan at them. Mattel also creates a lot of shelfwarming Hot Wheels sets as well, IZOD IndyCar Series, Boulevard, Retro Entertainment, Cool Classics, General Mills themed cars that are geared to adult collectors, but they don't want to pay $5 for a metal based car with Real Riders
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 15, 2014 21:44:27 GMT -5
I would think Hot Wheels out sell WWE, both are made by mattel. If you ever pay attention to Hot Wheels there are periods of time where stores will have little to nothing on shelves. So if Hot Wheels go so light on shelves what can you expect for wwe figs? The same at best I would think. Good point about Hot Wheels. Mattel makes mistakes with Hot Wheels as well. Sometimes Mattel will repaint an Iconic car that makes no sense such as a purple Dodge Lil Red Express, or a Maroon Buick Grand National, or a Red DeLorean DMC-12. Obviously kids wouldn't give a hoot about the stupid repaints of cars that were never painted in those colors back when the actual car companies made them in the 1980s, but the collectors just groan at them. Mattel also creates a lot of shelfwarming Hot Wheels sets as well, IZOD IndyCar Series, Boulevard, Retro Entertainment, Cool Classics, General Mills themed cars that are geared to adult collectors, but they don't want to pay $5 for a metal based car with Real Riders I try to collect those lines you mentioned. For me the biggest issue I have with Mattel's Hot Wheels is that for premium lines they want a premium price, yet they do not provide a premium product. For example look at the Retro entertainment line, they made a Star Trek Enterprise that is the EXACT same toy as the one released in the main lines. They might have given customers a different base/stand for the ship and possibly a slightly different paint job yet it costs 5 dollars? That's a 500% markup compared to the main line release. And then Mattel has so many competitors making premium collectible diecast vehicles in 1/64 scale that seriously put Mattel to shame. Look at the Anchorman News Van made by GreenLight. Now look at the one made by Mattel, the details in the Greenlight just blow mattel out of the water yet they cost the same. The truth to me is Mattel makes inferior products when it comes to Diecast vehicles compared to other companies out there. Even with that high markup, in comparison to the mainlines, Mattel has ridiculous delays getting the premium diecast vehicles on to the pegs. I know my targets have had pegs for Retro Entertainment since August now and yet they've NEVER had them in stock. To be fair though I think every company repaints the same toy over and over again.
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Post by thelostweekend on Apr 15, 2014 21:46:18 GMT -5
To be honest the biggest problem I see with tru is the baf sets. For the most part I like them, but they hit soft way early, then they hit Waaaaay too hard. The Cole series was just really bad besides the Bret. The Ricardo set was half good, but the bad half is STILL warming at my tru. The Johnny set was awesome all around, but that was the first example of a soft hit early followed by a ridiculously hard hit like four months later, when most collectors only need like one out two guys to finish the set, if they haven't just bought the leftover pieces online. The Heyman set was really good too (besides the Cena which was far too similar to the Johnny one, but again, soft early hit, hard late hit. At most trus today I see the Heyman set either with or without Bryan. The JR set is one I would put above the Ricardo set but below the Heyman set. If the last two sets are indicators they will trickle in over the next two months, then there will be waaaay too many three or four months later. The only regular elite series figures I saw were four Henrys. As for basics, similarly there were tons of Booker and Teddy figures left over. I think those are the main problem because they take up do much shelf space. This sums it up. I've only been to a handful of TRU stores in the last year, but looking at this forum, it sounds like it's mostly the same story: The majority of the WWE-related peg space is occupied by BAF releases. For the most part, Elite, Battle Pack, and most Basic figures dwindle down shortly after they hit the shelves. But the WWE section is dominated by the BAF sets. They can't add new stuff when the pegs are still clogged with dozens of Del Rio and Ziggler Build-a-Figure leftovers.
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 15, 2014 22:04:51 GMT -5
Good point about Hot Wheels. Mattel makes mistakes with Hot Wheels as well. Sometimes Mattel will repaint an Iconic car that makes no sense such as a purple Dodge Lil Red Express, or a Maroon Buick Grand National, or a Red DeLorean DMC-12. Obviously kids wouldn't give a hoot about the stupid repaints of cars that were never painted in those colors back when the actual car companies made them in the 1980s, but the collectors just groan at them. Mattel also creates a lot of shelfwarming Hot Wheels sets as well, IZOD IndyCar Series, Boulevard, Retro Entertainment, Cool Classics, General Mills themed cars that are geared to adult collectors, but they don't want to pay $5 for a metal based car with Real Riders I try to collect those lines you mentioned. For me the biggest issue I have with Mattel's Hot Wheels is that for premium lines they want a premium price, yet they do not provide a premium product. For example look at the Retro entertainment line, they made a Star Trek Enterprise that is the EXACT same toy as the one released in the main lines. They might have given customers a different base/stand for the ship and possibly a slightly different paint job yet it costs 5 dollars? That's a 500% markup compared to the main line release. And then Mattel has so many competitors making premium collectible diecast vehicles in 1/64 scale that seriously put Mattel to shame. Look at the Anchorman News Van made by GreenLight. Now look at the one made by Mattel, the details in the Greenlight just blow mattel out of the water yet they cost the same. The truth to me is Mattel makes inferior products when it comes to Diecast vehicles compared to other companies out there. Even with that high markup, in comparison to the mainlines, Mattel has ridiculous delays getting the premium diecast vehicles on to the pegs. I know my targets have had pegs for Retro Entertainment since August now and yet they've NEVER had them in stock. To be fair though I think every company repaints the same toy over and over again. I bought a Greenlight 1:18 scale 2008 Ford Crown Victoria which is the Forks Police car from Twilight. The amount of Detail put into the car blows the Matchbox Ford Crown Victoria out of the water
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 15, 2014 22:10:08 GMT -5
I try to collect those lines you mentioned. For me the biggest issue I have with Mattel's Hot Wheels is that for premium lines they want a premium price, yet they do not provide a premium product. For example look at the Retro entertainment line, they made a Star Trek Enterprise that is the EXACT same toy as the one released in the main lines. They might have given customers a different base/stand for the ship and possibly a slightly different paint job yet it costs 5 dollars? That's a 500% markup compared to the main line release. And then Mattel has so many competitors making premium collectible diecast vehicles in 1/64 scale that seriously put Mattel to shame. Look at the Anchorman News Van made by GreenLight. Now look at the one made by Mattel, the details in the Greenlight just blow mattel out of the water yet they cost the same. The truth to me is Mattel makes inferior products when it comes to Diecast vehicles compared to other companies out there. Even with that high markup, in comparison to the mainlines, Mattel has ridiculous delays getting the premium diecast vehicles on to the pegs. I know my targets have had pegs for Retro Entertainment since August now and yet they've NEVER had them in stock. To be fair though I think every company repaints the same toy over and over again. I bought a Greenlight 1:18 scale 2008 Ford Crown Victoria which is the Forks Police car from Twilight. The amount of Detail put into the car blows the Matchbox Ford Crown Victoria out of the water They do really nice work. 1/18 looks nicer than 1/64 but I tend to not buy those just cause of space.
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 15, 2014 22:16:00 GMT -5
I bought a Greenlight 1:18 scale 2008 Ford Crown Victoria which is the Forks Police car from Twilight. The amount of Detail put into the car blows the Matchbox Ford Crown Victoria out of the water They do really nice work. 1/18 looks nicer than 1/64 but I tend to not buy those just cause of space. It's the only 1:18 I own. I also own a few Scale Semi Trucks
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Post by tokyo on Apr 16, 2014 7:33:22 GMT -5
Isn't the Mattel wwe line the number one selling toy line? Thought I heard that earlier this year it beats out Star Wars and all that, and hot wheels can't make as much as wwe it's a dollar toy compared to 10.99 plus for a toy.
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