Official WrestleMania XXX Thread: 4/6/2013

[Deleted]

Orton vs. Batista will suck.

Kid Rock again?

I love how Taker and Lesnar are doing the EXACT same pose in that match-up graphic.

[Rule 30]

Undertaker/Lesnar already seems like it's going to be the match of the night. I'm excited for Cena/Wyatt too.

I can't say the same for Batista/Orton or Triple H/Bryan, especially if those rumors about Triple H/Bryan are true.

[HVMMONS]

This WM will be terrible. WWE needs something refreshing...
Get rid of the streak, it's boring and stale. Bring back the Money In The Bank match, or create a new "Wrestlemania" stip match. Most importantly, hire new writers. This forum could tell a better story than WWE has done in the past couple years.

[Rontaro13]

Feb 25, 2014 16:44:37 GMT -5 HVMMONS said:

This WM will be terrible. WWE needs something refreshing...
Get rid of the streak, it's boring and stale. Bring back the Money In The Bank match, or create a new "Wrestlemania" stip match. Most importantly, hire new writers. This forum could tell a better story than WWE has done in the past couple years.

If the streak were to be ended by Brock Lesnar then people will bitch and complain EVEN MORE then they do about Bryan not being the WWE Champion. If HBK, Ric Flair, HHH, Edge, Nash or anyone else couldn't end the streak before, then why have some part timer like Lesnar end it. Now if you meant to not have a Streak match at WrestleMania, that's going to have to wait until Undertaker retires.

[HVMMONS]

Feb 25, 2014 18:29:35 GMT -5 Rontaro13 said:

Feb 25, 2014 16:44:37 GMT -5 HVMMONS said:

This WM will be terrible. WWE needs something refreshing...
Get rid of the streak, it's boring and stale. Bring back the Money In The Bank match, or create a new "Wrestlemania" stip match. Most importantly, hire new writers. This forum could tell a better story than WWE has done in the past couple years.

If the streak were to be ended by Brock Lesnar then people will bitch and complain EVEN MORE then they do about Bryan not being the WWE Champion. If HBK, Ric Flair, HHH, Edge, Nash or anyone else couldn't end the streak before, then why have some part timer like Lesnar end it. Now if you meant to not have a Streak match at WrestleMania, that's going to have to wait until Undertaker retires.

I meant to not have the Streak at Wrestlemania. He should've retired at 20-0.

[Chip]

I'm obviously in the minority, but I have ZERO desire to see a 48 year old Undertaker wrestle a former UFC champion who is only back for a paycheck

Lesnar ain't in it for a Wrestlemania moment. The Streak is losing it's magic considering we are now only seeing Undertaker once (maybe twice) in a year's time....like why should I even care? Oh he can win one match a year? whew. Brock's gonna punch him alot, maybe put on a submission move, there's gonna be 38 near falls and Mahggle is going to lose his f-ing mind.


i know....sacrilige, "attacking" the great Undertaker, but i'm just frustrated by the entire Wrestlemania season....and 'Takers usual routine is not exciting me at all this year.

[jacktunney]

I feel sorry for those of you who take wrestling so seriously that you can't enjoy it at all, especially during wrestlemania season.

Sometimes things are just better than others and that's how it is. nitpicking everything to the Nth degree and not being able to enjoy something like the undertaker at WM because he's not "full time" or you know he's going to win must stink. I don't even get why people would watch at that point?

It's just wrestling. Mindless entertainment. Treat it as such and you probably can get a lot more enjoyment out of it.

[bigshab421]

Feb 25, 2014 20:26:01 GMT -5 jacktunney said:

I feel sorry for those of you who take wrestling so seriously that you can't enjoy it at all, especially during wrestlemania season.

Sometimes things are just better than others and that's how it is. nitpicking everything to the Nth degree and not being able to enjoy something like the undertaker at WM because he's not "full time" or you know he's going to win must stink. I don't even get why people would watch at that point?

It's just wrestling. Mindless entertainment. Treat it as such and you probably can get a lot more enjoyment out of it.

I try to keep that mindset but tell me what exactly enjoyable at this point?

i go in every monday thinking "maybe something will be different and enjoyable" yet it never is. Nothing they do is remotely entertaining anymore.

You know its sad when Hogan is the highlight of your show.

[Chief]

Minus Orton vs. Batista everything is enjoyable to me.

We go through this same stuff EVERY year. No matter what it's "This is going to be the worst Mania ever" every year. And it ends up not being.

I do think it's hilarious that if you add Bryan to the main event most people would think this is a great show and the best Mania ever.

[bigshab421]

Feb 25, 2014 23:01:03 GMT -5 Chief said:

Minus Orton vs. Batista everything is enjoyable to me.

We go through this same stuff EVERY year. No matter what it's "This is going to be the worst Mania ever" every year. And it ends up not being.

I do think it's hilarious that if you add Bryan to the main event most people would think this is a great show and the best Mania ever.

I don't think thats the case at all, it would just make the Main Event a helluva lot more interesting and enjoyable. Usually the main event matches have been justified (Except Cena/Miz) but this main event title match is just garbage. No other way around it.

Really the only truly fresh matchup we are getting in the main event scene is Cena/Wyatt. I like the matchup and feel the story will be good only if Wyatt goes over. Its time Cena started working with new guys and getting them over.

Honestly I do not know what the rest of the card will entail but it honestly does not make up for the huge screw up of Daniel Bryans booking and CM Punk walking out on Mania/WWE.

[Glorydaysofwrestling]

As soon as someone gets over..Triple H has to interject himself into a program with them. He eventually kills off their momentum. It's been happening for years. The last time was with Punk in 2011. Why did he have to put himself with Punk as soon as Punk came back from leaving with the title? Because it's all about HHH. And always has been since he buddied up with HBK.

[johnnyaustin21]

So far not that interested in the card and what is rumored to take place.If Orton/Batista is left as is thats going to be a horrible match and the crowd will crap all over it.Brock/Taker was awesome back in '02-'03 and I was extremely hype for their matches and their feud but now a dozen years later with Taker nearing 50 and the fact that Brock is a shell of his former self just not that interested.The only great match that Brock has had during his return run was wit CM Punk who just happend to be in his prime of his career,arguably the best in ring worker in the company and a lot smaller then Brock.None of this is the case with Undertaker.Cena/Wyatt is actually something I am looking forward to and hope to god that Wyatt goes over clean,just think their was a better match that both men could be in.Then lastly Bryan/Triple H is the one match on the show that I myself would have actually book,I would have gone down a different road with Bryan winning the Royal Rumble and Triple H somehow gaining the WWE Title on the road to Wrestlemania to make it a title match.But I am okay with the title not being on the line.


My idea for Wrestlemania and their main matches would have been

John Cena .Vs The Undertaker

WWE World Heavyweight Title:
Triple H(C) .Vs Daniel Bryan

Batista .Vs Brock Lesnar

No DQ Match:
The Shield .Vs The Wyatt Family

[Rule 30]

I don't understand all the complaining about the Undertaker. Maybe it's just because I'm a damn mark, but he's (arguably) had the best match at every WrestleMania since 2007. The day he can no longer put on a good match, I'd say then it's time to hang it up. WrestleMania will never be the same without him again, and I would have very little excitement for this year if he wasn't back.

I actually don't mind the idea of Undertaker only coming back for WrestleMania, kayfabe wise. He's getting older and all the wars he's been through are starting to take a toll. He doesn't have much left, but WrestleMania is still his yard, and he won't allow anyone to take it from him. He's the ghost of WrestleMania in a way. Man, I am a mark. Shoot me.

[Jamal]

Other than Batista/Orton, this card is looking pretty damn solid to me.

Not to mention most of the people on here won't be paying $60 plus, so really no reason to be too down.

[johnnyaustin21]

Feb 26, 2014 15:59:45 GMT -5 Rule 30 said:

I don't understand all the complaining about the Undertaker. Maybe it's just because I'm a damn mark, but he's (arguably) had the best match at every WrestleMania since 2007. The day he can no longer put on a good match, I'd say then it's time to hang it up. WrestleMania will never be the same without him again, and I would have very little excitement for this year if he wasn't back.

I actually don't mind the idea of Undertaker only coming back for WrestleMania, kayfabe wise. He's getting older and all the wars he's been through are starting to take a toll. He doesn't have much left, but WrestleMania is still his yard, and he won't allow anyone to take it from him. He's the ghost of WrestleMania in a way. Man, I am a mark. Shoot me.

I am not knock Undertaker sense he is one of the biggest legends and also one of the most important wrestlers in WWE history.However him coming back every year just to wrestle at Wrestlemania is getting really stale and old.This is now his 4th year doing this same crap and it looks like that trend will continue for another year or two.

I fully under stand at this point and time in Undertaker's career that he doesn't want or can't be a full time active wrestler or even a real part timer.But he should be able to wrestle a few times threw out the year even if its just at say a SummerSlam and Survivor Series.These one off match are just really getting old,and this year I don't think he will have a MOTY type outing with Brock Lesnar.Sense his return in 2012 Brock is just a shell of his former self and you can obviously tell he just came back for the big payday.

[Chief]

Feb 26, 2014 18:57:01 GMT -5 johnnyaustin21 said:

Feb 26, 2014 15:59:45 GMT -5 Rule 30 said:

I don't understand all the complaining about the Undertaker. Maybe it's just because I'm a damn mark, but he's (arguably) had the best match at every WrestleMania since 2007. The day he can no longer put on a good match, I'd say then it's time to hang it up. WrestleMania will never be the same without him again, and I would have very little excitement for this year if he wasn't back.

I actually don't mind the idea of Undertaker only coming back for WrestleMania, kayfabe wise. He's getting older and all the wars he's been through are starting to take a toll. He doesn't have much left, but WrestleMania is still his yard, and he won't allow anyone to take it from him. He's the ghost of WrestleMania in a way. Man, I am a mark. Shoot me.

I am not knock Undertaker sense he is one of the biggest legends and also one of the most important wrestlers in WWE history.However him coming back every year just to wrestle at Wrestlemania is getting really stale and old.This is now his 4th year doing this same crap and it looks like that trend will continue for another year or two.

I fully under stand at this point and time in Undertaker's career that he doesn't want or can't be a full time active wrestler or even a real part timer.But he should be able to wrestle a few times threw out the year even if its just at say a SummerSlam and Survivor Series.These one off match are just really getting old,and this year I don't think he will have a MOTY type outing with Brock Lesnar.Sense his return in 2012 Brock is just a shell of his former self and you can obviously tell he just came back for the big payday.

Brock's MOTYC against John Cena and CM Punk say hello.

Undertaker and his Streak are integral parts of Wrestlemania and for years and years he has been putting out the best match at Mania.

It seems selfish of you to want him to work more when he can only work once or twice a year. The dude can put on a classic one time each year I don't see a problem like that. He's a legend, a legacy character. Wrestlemania is where he belongs.

[johnnyaustin21]

Feb 26, 2014 19:26:07 GMT -5 Chief said:

Feb 26, 2014 18:57:01 GMT -5 johnnyaustin21 said:

I am not knock Undertaker sense he is one of the biggest legends and also one of the most important wrestlers in WWE history.However him coming back every year just to wrestle at Wrestlemania is getting really stale and old.This is now his 4th year doing this same crap and it looks like that trend will continue for another year or two.

I fully under stand at this point and time in Undertaker's career that he doesn't want or can't be a full time active wrestler or even a real part timer.But he should be able to wrestle a few times threw out the year even if its just at say a SummerSlam and Survivor Series.These one off match are just really getting old,and this year I don't think he will have a MOTY type outing with Brock Lesnar.Sense his return in 2012 Brock is just a shell of his former self and you can obviously tell he just came back for the big payday.

Brock's MOTYC against John Cena and CM Punk say hello.

Undertaker and his Streak are integral parts of Wrestlemania and for years and years he has been putting out the best match at Mania.

It seems selfish of you to want him to work more when he can only work once or twice a year. The dude can put on a classic one time each year I don't see a problem like that. He's a legend, a legacy character. Wrestlemania is where he belongs.

If Undertaker is so broken down that he can only wrestle one match a year then he should retire.I love Taker but him coming back to wrestle other part timers(Triple H and Brock Lesnar) over the last few years with the exception of CM Punk really takes away from the current roster.Whatever match he is in at Wrestlemania pretty much over shadows the whole show,and again its even worse when he's wrestling another part timer.Two part timers taking up the main event or co main event slot at Wrestlemania is not good in the short term or long term health of the company.

[Jamal]

It's a ing 4 hour show. It's not like WWE is surrounded by so much elite talent that 1 Undertaker match is holding the other wrestlers down.

[Rontaro13]

Feb 26, 2014 23:52:57 GMT -5 johnnyaustin21 said:

Feb 26, 2014 19:26:07 GMT -5 Chief said:

Brock's MOTYC against John Cena and CM Punk say hello.

Undertaker and his Streak are integral parts of Wrestlemania and for years and years he has been putting out the best match at Mania.

It seems selfish of you to want him to work more when he can only work once or twice a year. The dude can put on a classic one time each year I don't see a problem like that. He's a legend, a legacy character. Wrestlemania is where he belongs.

If Undertaker is so broken down that he can only wrestle one match a year then he should retire.I love Taker but him coming back to wrestle other part timers(Triple H and Brock Lesnar) over the last few years with the exception of CM Punk really takes away from the current roster.Whatever match he is in at Wrestlemania pretty much over shadows the whole show,and again its even worse when he's wrestling another part timer.Two part timers taking up the main event or co main event slot at Wrestlemania is not good in the short term or long term health of the company.

We really don't know for sure whether The Undertaker can only wrestle once a year because of his health and physical state, or the fact that he has a wife and a kid to think about to. Nobody seems to remember that Undertaker is married to Michelle McCool and had a child with her, maybe his health isn't the reason why he can't wrestle more than once a year, it might be that he wants to be there with his child while he's growing up or a little bit of both. The only person who knows for sure is The Undertaker himself.

[Chief]

In all honesty why does it matter that he can only wrestle once a year if it's an awesome match when he does?