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Post by ICW on Nov 11, 2014 14:26:43 GMT -5
here's the thing - I've heard others say they don't want to upload a ton of stuff, but little bit over longer periods of time,as a way to entice people to keep subscribing - i.e. waiting until September to upload any Nitro's,since the original subscription dates would be coming up in August. basically "Hey, subscribe for another 6 months! We've got this coming up on the Network!" needless to say,that hasn't really worked out well for them. the other thing is, they could finish uploading all the Nitro's, ECW shows,WCCW, and Old School shows tomorrow,and still have plenty to upload for years to come,to entice resubscriptions. they haven't even touched: AWA Memphis/USWACalgary Stampede WCW ThunderWCW Saturday Night WWF Superstars of Wrestling WWF Wrestling Challenge WWF Tuesday Night Titans WWF Prime Time Wrestling The Slammy Awards WWF Shotgun saturday Night WWF Sunday Night Heat...that's off the top of my head. I'm sure they own more. there's literally years and years worth of shows yet to upload,not counting wht the still haven't gotten to with Nitro,ECW,WCCW,Old School, Raw,and Smackdown yet. so the idea that they have to hold back on uploading too much for fear of running out of stuff to entice subscribers is a crock. I bolded what interests me. I can also add in these. Metal/Jakked Velocity All-American Wrestling Tough Enough ECW on TNN Confidential OVW FCW NXT SMW!
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 11, 2014 14:40:31 GMT -5
here's the thing - I've heard others say they don't want to upload a ton of stuff, but little bit over longer periods of time,as a way to entice people to keep subscribing - i.e. waiting until September to upload any Nitro's,since the original subscription dates would be coming up in August. basically "Hey, subscribe for another 6 months! We've got this coming up on the Network!" needless to say,that hasn't really worked out well for them. the other thing is, they could finish uploading all the Nitro's, ECW shows,WCCW, and Old School shows tomorrow,and still have plenty to upload for years to come,to entice resubscriptions. they haven't even touched: AWA Memphis/USWACalgary Stampede WCW ThunderWCW Saturday Night WWF Superstars of Wrestling WWF Wrestling Challenge WWF Tuesday Night Titans WWF Prime Time Wrestling The Slammy Awards WWF Shotgun saturday Night WWF Sunday Night Heat...that's off the top of my head. I'm sure they own more. there's literally years and years worth of shows yet to upload,not counting wht the still haven't gotten to with Nitro,ECW,WCCW,Old School, Raw,and Smackdown yet. so the idea that they have to hold back on uploading too much for fear of running out of stuff to entice subscribers is a crock. I bolded what interests me. I can also add in these. Metal/Jakked Velocity All-American Wrestling Tough Enough ECW on TNN Confidential OVW FCW NXT forgot about all those you listed. but,again,that just adds to my point - they could add several new episodes every single day,and not run out of new content to upload for at least a decade.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Nov 11, 2014 15:24:03 GMT -5
I bolded what interests me. I can also add in these. Metal/Jakked Velocity All-American Wrestling Tough Enough ECW on TNN Confidential OVW FCW NXT forgot about all those you listed. but,again,that just adds to my point - they could add several new episodes every single day,and not run out of new content to upload for at least a decade. Exactly the point I wanted to make. It's hard to believe that it takes a long ass time to upload anything that's not original programming or replays of the weekly TV shows. I mean how many times can we watch replays of Legends' House (as good of a show that was IMO), Total Divas, NXT, Superstars, when all of that is on the archive. They have the schedule time to upload multiple episodes of certain TV shows every f***ing day. I will bet my bottom dollar that if they stopped with the ridiculous amount of replays and started filling that time with more ECW episodes, with more WCCW episodes, with more Old School live events, with more RAW replays, I bet you that they could recover at least half of the subscribers that they've lost these past 6 months. The current product could also be affecting the Network and not having it in the UK, but I bet that the majority of the people who unsubscribed, did it because they're tired of the scheduling. And the sad part is, if Vince is so desperate to get more subscribers, instead of doing this ridiculous November free Network thing, why doesn't he get a team of people, find out everyone who was a subscribers that unsubscribed and ask them, "Why did you unsubscribe and how can we get you back as a subscriber?" They need to cater to every fan. Give us a little bit of the live events for the old school people who lived in those days that couldn't attend all those shows. Some people who attended a lot of MSG, couldn't attend the Spectrum show, the Boston Garden, etc. and vice versa. Give them a little more of that. For the old school ECW fans, give us a little more ECW Hardcore TV. I like that they uploaded 40 hours of Hardcore TV plus three ECW Arena events, why not upload 3 episodes a week and then once a month, upload an ECW Arena event that wasn't a PPV. Give them a little more WCCW. Again, 3 episodes a week is enough to start. Continue uploading 3 episodes of RAW a week. In fact, IMO they should raise the number to 5, that way we could have a new episode almost every day. Continue the Best of RAW and Smackdown episodes that they've stopped. There are still a bunch of RAW and Smackdown episodes that I want to watch that are worthy of this. It's sad that we have to wait until they decide to do something like ECW Week, which BTW, unless something changed from yesterday, the only thing on the schedule was the ECW Exposed Live special and the Monday Night Wars episode featuring ECW. I haven't seen any of the new ECW Hardcore TV or the ECW Arena shows on the schedule this week. So much for ECW Week. I mean it's sad that someone like me, who despite being a wrestling fan for almost 15 years now, or anybody else ranting about this, can easily come up with a schedule that has something uploaded almost every day, but the people in charge of the Network find it so f***ing difficult to do. I can understand the frustrations of not only the fans who unsubscribed, but the people who are still subscribed. I hope that they can fix these problems. Stop with the ridiculous amount of replays, stop with all the original programming, which seems to almost be the same s*** every time, and give us something for every type of fan. Even for the kids who begged their parents to buy the Network, maybe give Rock n Wrestling cartoons every Sunday morning. Maybe instead of 2 minute Slam City episode, which are funny IMO, make half hour episodes of Slam City every Sunday morning. It's a little something for the kids. I feel that they should not plan to upload anything else new from the archive or any other original programming until they finish with at least one of the programs that don't get a lot of uploads, then focus on something. So far the only thing they have finished uploading the entire series of is the Legends of Wrestling roundtables. I did not mean to go on this huge rant of mine, but this is how frustrated I am with the Network. I mean literally the only thing I turn on the Network for is the RAW preshow, Main Event and NXT. Every thing else for me can wait.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 11, 2014 20:13:59 GMT -5
I started thinking about the Network today. Last night, I was listening to the Don Tony and Kevin Castle Show, and they had Missionary Thomas of Wrestling Soup on. He and Don Tony briefly mentioned that they decided not to renew their subscriptions to the Network. Don Tony was saying that he's probably not going to subscribe again until they start uploading more of the Old School live events. Missionary Thomas said something that got me thinking. He said that he didn't subscribe, not because he couldn't afford the $10, but because the Network was not worth subscribing again. Then I started thinking about the 230, 000 something people that unsubscribed as well. I always hear Don Tony say that instead of WWE putting out polls asking if they would be interested in certain original programming, why don't they look up the people who unsubscribed and ask them, Why did you unsubscribe and what can we do to get you back as a customer. I am frustrated as a customer because they haven't really uploaded a lot of these archived shows. Yeah they uploaded 40+ hours of ECW, but why have they stopped in May? I started noticing that after Wrestlemania was over with, they went real slow uploading WCCW, the Old School live events. I'm frustrated with all these original programming that I recently could care less about. I could care less about listening about Austin vs. McMahon, I could care less about the Monday Night Wars, I could care less about hearing about the Attitude Era. Why instead of these original programming, why not give us the actual TV episodes. I'm not gonna buy this whole they didn't digitialize everything bull crap cause it's a load of crap. I don't get why it was so easy to show the old school live events, old PPVs, etc. on Classics on Demand, which I couldn't get at the time, where they even had the old Primetime Wrestling episodes as well, yet it's so hard for them to upload the same thing on the Network, which is a bigger thing than Classics on Demand. I'm starting to understand why a lot of people are considering the Network a flop. Now I'll probably a subscriber until it's gone cause I'm that much of a fan, but I find it hard to understand why it's so difficult for them to have a steady schedule or why they're focusing more time replaying stuff ten times and on original programming. Let me break this down for everybody here to fully grasp and understand. One of the reasons why the WWE has to digitize everything is because their entire tape library is on actual tapes. The majority of their older tapes won't look good without digitizing every minute of footage they own. The WWE doesn't have many employees handling this task. Therefore, they can only do so much hours a day getting things prepped to upload. The legal channels they have to do causes the footage they want to upload takes a while to get it uploaded. This is one of the main reasons for the WWE settling with the World Wildlife Fund that allowed them to show footage with the WWF scratch logo as opposed to having to take a ton of time blurring it out. It takes time editing out the music and making changes to the footage in the editing stage. As far as Classics on Demand is concerned, most month's would have a certain theme to them. Also, the WWE was heavily restricted to 40-hours of a week. This is why they had to remove content every week and replace it with something new. The PPV's got added to CoD three months after they were aired. Even back then, it took a while for the WWE to prep footage to put on there. A lot of WCW events had theme music changes. Most of the original themes can be heard on the network versions of those events. Many consider the WWE Network a flop because the WWE set the bar extremely high from the beginning. The WWE expected to get one million subscribers by years end only to seeing the subscriber count fluctuate to a point it is not match the expectations they hoped to see. At this juncture, the network is trying its hardest not to sink. It is trying to stay afloat and swim. The more people who unsubscribe, the more it hurts the WWE's expectations for the network. I am afraid to see what the next subscriber count would be. On your point about original programming, it can be due to the cost it takes to produce. The WWE had big plans to add more original content but the more people unsubscribe, the less of a chance we'll see anything more.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Nov 11, 2014 20:25:52 GMT -5
If you sign up to get the month of November free on the WWE Network, can you cancel in November too?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 11, 2014 20:26:58 GMT -5
If you sign up to get the month of November free on the WWE Network, can you cancel in November too? Yea. It's a free month with no commitment.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Nov 11, 2014 20:28:21 GMT -5
If you sign up to get the month of November free on the WWE Network, can you cancel in November too? Yea. It's a free month with no commitment. Looks like I'm getting the Network and canceling after Survivor Series!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 11, 2014 22:31:32 GMT -5
Did anyone watch the ECW Exposed special? I wanna know if it's worth viewing.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 12, 2014 6:18:21 GMT -5
There's a new Beyond the Ring about the behind the scenes process of making wrestler's entrance themes debuting today at 4:00 PM. not sure if this is the disk that just came out a few months ago,or if it;s something else entirely.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 12, 2014 12:59:11 GMT -5
There's a new Beyond the Ring about the behind the scenes process of making wrestler's entrance themes debuting today at 4:00 PM. not sure if this is the disk that just came out a few months ago,or if it;s something else entirely. It isn't worth checking out from what I heard. You'll get more listening to Jim Johnston on Steve Austin's podcast than this "Signature Sounds" DVD the WWE released recently.
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Post by rustyy on Nov 12, 2014 17:26:21 GMT -5
Did anyone watch the ECW Exposed special? I wanna know if it's worth viewing. It was okay, not great but not terrible. Paul seemed like he was sorta in character or really bored for some parts. If you listen to podcasts with Heyman or anything of that sort it's probably not worth your time since it's mostly old stories. He mentioned Punk though, that shocked me.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Nov 12, 2014 17:37:11 GMT -5
Did anyone watch the ECW Exposed special? I wanna know if it's worth viewing. It was okay, not great but not terrible. Paul seemed like he was sorta in character or really bored for some parts. If you listen to podcasts with Heyman or anything of that sort it's probably not worth your time since it's mostly old stories. He mentioned Punk though, that shocked me. Also, everything they've talked about was already known if people watched the Rise and Fall of ECW, which will be on VOD Friday after Smackdown. The way Joey Styles made it sound, it sounded as if it would air after Smackdown, but the schedule says 10 pm, ECW Exposed and 11 pm, The John Cena Experience. Steve Austin in ECW, discussed on the book about the Rise and Fall of ECW. Brian Pillman's story was the only one that was discussed that had new info that wasn't talked about on Eric Bischoff's book. Everything else, was known and talked about, so it wasn't anything new to me. It was still good and Heyman despite being half in character was funny.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 12, 2014 21:04:08 GMT -5
Is anyone else's Network being funny? It won't work on my computer, Roku or phone. I'm going to try my PS4 now.
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Post by Juba on Nov 12, 2014 21:13:26 GMT -5
Looks like the network crashed...hell yeah
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 13, 2014 6:16:45 GMT -5
just tried it,and it worked for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 7:39:35 GMT -5
Watched 5 minutes of the ECW Exposed special and had to turn it off.
Very awkward and unfunny.
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Post by Self-Savior on Nov 13, 2014 14:24:35 GMT -5
Watched 5 minutes of the ECW Exposed special and had to turn it off. Very awkward and unfunny. I thought it was pretty good. I just wish that Paul did more of the talking instead of Joey. I could listen to Heyman talk for hours and his DVD/bluray that came out this year was fantastic.
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Post by Self-Savior on Nov 13, 2014 14:29:46 GMT -5
Considering how they announced that the new 47 episodes of Hardcore TV were only available on VOD, hopefully when they reach more of the Attitude Era shows they'll just do a mass upload into the respective VOD sections instead of putting them on live stream (which will be lame since blood will be grayscreened). It'll be easier (as well as make more sense) to just do that instead of uploading 2 versions of the same show, only 1 edited and the other uncensored.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 13, 2014 15:28:31 GMT -5
Considering how they announced that the new 47 episodes of Hardcore TV were only available on VOD, hopefully when they reach more of the Attitude Era shows they'll just do a mass upload into the respective VOD sections instead of putting them on live stream (which will be lame since blood will be grayscreened). It'll be easier (as well as make more sense) to just do that instead of uploading 2 versions of the same show, only 1 edited and the other uncensored. This reminds me when Triple H & Stephanie McMahon mentioned that they have 40,000 hours of content prepped for the network. So far, less than 5,000 hours have been uploaded. I have a feeling the WWE is waiting for their free period to end to do a mass upload. Regarding yesterday's outage: Source: wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/1113/584887/wwe-network-issues-statement-on-last-night-downtime/
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Post by savage on Nov 13, 2014 16:20:15 GMT -5
Hasn't been working all week on my Sony Blu ray player. It freezes the thing at the beginning of every video so bad that I can't been power it down. I have to unplug the thing. Beginning to irritate me.
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