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Post by Jack on Feb 28, 2014 2:51:12 GMT -5
This is gunna be a long rant, but I gotta get this off my chest. I joined this board to meet other animators and show my work nearly 5 years ago. This board gave me just what I wanted, I've met so many people on here and made so many friends, not just on here but in outside life, friends that I can look to for advice or hang out with. In a few weeks I'll be meeting Ross for the third time at a wrestling show. I would never have met him, had I not joined WF. Networking with animators is a huge part of this hobby and the other board hurts that. We need one big place where we can all talk and share our work. Instead we are separated because of competition. Competition was great for this board, we created matches and titles and we truly have something awesome in monthly events(PPVs). But competition has hurt wresting animations as a hobby. Because people can't take it and feel the need to make their own. We no longer have a single place where animators can come together. Jairo proved that when he ditched us. The fact is the other board is taking away from WF and I find that disgusting. Its a complete joke, Jairo punked out on every animator on this board. Spitting on the history, the same history that fuelled your hobby. All the great matches that have come from wrestling animation, the matches that so many people have watched, Stevo Vs. LKS, DeadBones Vs. JWS, and so many more. Happened right here on WF, not some second rate forum. WF has been so good in bringing wrestling animators together, and when we get together good stuff happens, look at Animania! Yet other forums wanna stop that? Create a divide for no reason at all. Why separate and have matches somewhere else? When you can have them right here! The same place where the people who inspired you to even pick up a camera and string, showed their worth. The same place where champions where made! Champions... To everyone else its a picture in a signature, to us it signifies you are the best at what you do. We made real champions who got respect out of something so small, in something as simple as teenagers on a forum, we somehow created greatness, made people shine. The same reason I am still here today! You see, real champions compete with honour and don't shy from competition. They don't rig voting because they are unhappy or hide behind the name "rookie". If you joined that board to win titles you are a joke. You aren't a champion, champions don't run from competition and go where its "easier", they step up and earn the right to be called champion. There is a obvious reason our WHC history is stacked to the sky with talent, while a kid who struggled to win beginners on here is their WHC. I hate the other board, literally hate it. Filled with selfish people that are willing to ruin a place as great as this, so they can feel good about themselves. So go ahead, you support the other board and take traffic away from here. Clearly you don't care about the history and the people that got you into the damn hobby. You rip off what WF made. Meanwhile I'll be here fighting for what I believe in. A hobby and a place that gave me so much. This goes out to everyone on the board, you think you've got what it takes, then step up. Put in the hard work, show dedication. Earn what you think you deserve and give it 100%. We have Animania coming up, WFs biggest event. The perfect place to show what you got, a place to earn everything. Are you going to show your worth? Or punk out like Jairo? The choice is yours... I don't wanna hear anymore crap about RA, I refuse to let you advertise and promote it. Last time I'm going to talk about it. Post of the Year? I will tell you what pisses me off. Alot of people on here want the SHOT and CHANCE at having a World Title match. KKD doesnt hand in, TWICE how for that match. That is ridiculous. Multiple other people would have loved that position. I say that neither of these two men can go near another title match, until they have proved their commitment to the board, however long it takes, cause lets be honest, and QUOTE ME NOW, they will come crawling back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 3:15:44 GMT -5
This is gunna be a long rant, but I gotta get this off my chest. I joined this board to meet other animators and show my work nearly 5 years ago. This board gave me just what I wanted, I've met so many people on here and made so many friends, not just on here but in outside life, friends that I can look to for advice or hang out with. In a few weeks I'll be meeting Ross for the third time at a wrestling show. I would never have met him, had I not joined WF. Networking with animators is a huge part of this hobby and the other board hurts that. We need one big place where we can all talk and share our work. Instead we are separated because of competition. Competition was great for this board, we created matches and titles and we truly have something awesome in monthly events(PPVs). But competition has hurt wresting animations as a hobby. Because people can't take it and feel the need to make their own. We no longer have a single place where animators can come together. Jairo proved that when he ditched us. The fact is the other board is taking away from WF and I find that disgusting. Its a complete joke, Jairo punked out on every animator on this board. Spitting on the history, the same history that fuelled your hobby. All the great matches that have come from wrestling animation, the matches that so many people have watched, Stevo Vs. LKS, DeadBones Vs. JWS, and so many more. Happened right here on WF, not some second rate forum. WF has been so good in bringing wrestling animators together, and when we get together good stuff happens, look at Animania! Yet other forums wanna stop that? Create a divide for no reason at all. Why separate and have matches somewhere else? When you can have them right here! The same place where the people who inspired you to even pick up a camera and string, showed their worth. The same place where champions where made! Champions... To everyone else its a picture in a signature, to us it signifies you are the best at what you do. We made real champions who got respect out of something so small, in something as simple as teenagers on a forum, we somehow created greatness, made people shine. The same reason I am still here today! You see, real champions compete with honour and don't shy from competition. They don't rig voting because they are unhappy or hide behind the name "rookie". If you joined that board to win titles you are a joke. You aren't a champion, champions don't run from competition and go where its "easier", they step up and earn the right to be called champion. There is a obvious reason our WHC history is stacked to the sky with talent, while a kid who struggled to win beginners on here is their WHC. I hate the other board, literally hate it. Filled with selfish people that are willing to ruin a place as great as this, so they can feel good about themselves. So go ahead, you support the other board and take traffic away from here. Clearly you don't care about the history and the people that got you into the damn hobby. You rip off what WF made. Meanwhile I'll be here fighting for what I believe in. A hobby and a place that gave me so much. This goes out to everyone on the board, you think you've got what it takes, then step up. Put in the hard work, show dedication. Earn what you think you deserve and give it 100%. We have Animania coming up, WFs biggest event. The perfect place to show what you got, a place to earn everything. Are you going to show your worth? Or punk out like Jairo? The choice is yours... I don't wanna hear anymore crap about RA, I refuse to let you advertise and promote it. Last time I'm going to talk about it. You're getting a little worked up over this, I understand where they're all coming from as I used to be apart of crapty little websites for animations. The only reason they join them is because the majority of them on here get treated like crap because they're not as good at animating as others. Why stick around on a website where people treat you like crap cause you're not as good as everyone else when you can go to another website with people in the same boat as you. Honestly trying to force people to stay here is wrong, it's their choice to go to the crapty forums and if they feel that is what's right that's their choice. They're entitled to it. I can see where you're coming from though but times change. The only reason this was the main place people competed back in 09 and such was because this WAS the only site, then in 2011 or something Jesse made his forum, heaps of people joined that, the traffic on WF slowed a little and it pretty much went to crap with Audie as mod and such. Just let things play out as they do and don't worry about other forums.
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Post by Andeh on Feb 28, 2014 3:42:32 GMT -5
You have taken my post completely out of context. I'm not worked up, people always ask why we don't support other boards, I finally let them know why. I'm calm and controlled and very deliberate with everything I said. I'm not forcing anybody to do anything, I'm laying out the facts and letting them make a choice from it. I'm truly hoping people support this board. I also find the "people join and get treated like crap" nonsense. So many people have joined and been welcome with open arms, look at Jairo. Yet he chucked it back in our face. The only people that have joined and been ridiculed since I became mod, are JPR and BetterThanYou. Both due to the fact they are horribly rude to everyone they speak to. Your facts are all wrong, there where plenty of other forums back in 09. But that is irrelevant to my point. You saying "The only reason this was the main place people competed back in 09 and such was because this WAS the only site" is not a counter argument, it supports my post. All competition came from WF, without this board their forum would cease to exist. You saying I need not worry about other forums is ignorant, considering people are asking and posting about it right now. I've been given the task to moderate this board and they forum is directly effecting us, I would be foolish to ignore it.
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Post by ZMW on Feb 28, 2014 4:05:08 GMT -5
Well... This escalated quickly...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 4:30:23 GMT -5
lmao @ all the RA apologists swarming to the thread trying to defend their second-rate site. I'm not gonna add anymore to what Andeh said, because if you don't comprehend that and the meaning of WFigs, then you never will. Jamie, ZMW, JDP. I'm looking at you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 5:38:31 GMT -5
You have taken my post completely out of context. I'm not worked up, people always ask why we don't support other boards, I finally let them know why. I'm calm and controlled and very deliberate with everything I said. I'm not forcing anybody to do anything, I'm laying out the facts and letting them make a choice from it. I'm truly hoping people support this board. I also find the "people join and get treated like crap" nonsense. So many people have joined and been welcome with open arms, look at Jairo. Yet he chucked it back in our face. The only people that have joined and been ridiculed since I became mod, are JPR and BetterThanYou. Both due to the fact they are horribly rude to everyone they speak to. Your facts are all wrong, there where plenty of other forums back in 09. But that is irrelevant to my point. You saying "The only reason this was the main place people competed back in 09 and such was because this WAS the only site" is not a counter argument, it supports my post. All competition came from WF, without this board their forum would cease to exist. You saying I need not worry about other forums is ignorant, considering people are asking and posting about it right now. I've been given the task to moderate this board and they forum is directly effecting us, I would be foolish to ignore it. Not really, wasn't taken out of context one bit in my opinion. What I'm getting at though is back in 09 when I joined, all the way till around late 2010, early 2011 I was treated like absolute crap along with A LOT of other animators. Just to name a few, W.S.E, JamesWorld and pretty much every other person with a 3 letter name, repping their fed. It's no where near as bad as it has been before with animators like Bryan, Turrah etc quitting because of things other members have done (I was involved in them leaving, not going to leave that out to try make me seem like a good guy.) but there's still that I'm better than you vibe that goes around and it's really not a welcoming place to newcomers to be 100% honest. The only way you'll be accepted straight away is if you're either good for a beginner or you suck up to everyones ass like JDP did. It's not the fact the competition is to hard here in my opinion it's that some people are to competitive and that leads to them talking down on people who didn't win. It might not seem like a lot to the person saying the stuff, hell he might even mean it as a joke but people take it seriously and that's why a lot of the new comers or animators who aren't as good leave this board and go join a noob site. Josh gave a perfect example in the post above how he singled out JDP, Jamie and ZMW for being on the other website. That's their choice they shouldn't be treated differently just because they're signed up and compete on another website. Last time I checked those three are always handing on here anyway? So what's the harm? I can understand the Jairo thing with him leaving pissing a few people off but do you honestly think he would WANT to come back if he feels everyone is pressuring him to and then when he does finally come back he gets a lot of hate because he left? I personally wouldn't stick around if I copped hate for being on another website. That's all I'm really trying to get across, is treat the new comers and animators who aren't as good nicer, because they're the ones who will leave and eventually it'll be this forum vs a noob forum with a bunch of kids who can't animate very well and sooner or later they'll get good and this bored will be second. Try treat everyone equally, nicely and fairly on here and we shouldn't have problems like people leaving for the other site. Just want to point out, this isn't directed at you personally Andeh, but more so the entire board. Is it really that hard to just be nicer to members who aren't the best? Also I get the part with BetterThanYou but not JPR, all I've seen when he makes a post is 4 or 5 people quoting him going 'OMGGGG #BeliveInJPR' or some dumb crap like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 6:19:32 GMT -5
Josh gave a perfect example in the post above how he singled out JDP, Jamie and ZMW for being on the other website. That's their choice they shouldn't be treated differently just because they're signed up and compete on another website. Last time I checked those three are always handing on here anyway? So what's the harm? I can understand the Jairo thing with him leaving pissing a few people off but do you honestly think he would WANT to come back if he feels everyone is pressuring him to and then when he does finally come back he gets a lot of hate because he left? I personally wouldn't stick around if I copped hate for being on another website. Will, you completely missed the point again, my point was not to target them for being on the site, but just stating that those people wouldn't understand the importance of WFigs to several generations of people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 6:54:59 GMT -5
Meh, I honestly can't be ed responding any more ^ On a side note, actually made my animation for a ppv this time! If I win this I'll actually try hard to win at Animania! Andeh! I'm comin for you nigguh!
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Post by Andeh on Feb 28, 2014 7:17:44 GMT -5
Dats wasist! However don't bank on me winning IC, I'm hoping somebody replaces and gives me a run for my money.
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Post by Fave on Feb 28, 2014 7:22:40 GMT -5
Almost done..i should be handing in probably an hour or so before they're due. My lighting has been trouble but i'm guessing it was due to the figures i was using. Red tights and such always gives me crap yellow lighting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 7:28:59 GMT -5
Good to see the amount of hand ins is picking up, at least one person has handed in for every match with IC being the only one with one competitor, good stuff, really hope the people that haven't yet handed in make an effort to do so. Just about to update main post with updated hand ins.
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Post by wwextreme25 on Feb 28, 2014 9:20:23 GMT -5
Just come back on a lunch break, and tbh andeh, everything you said, i said in skype yesterday but with lesser effect. Mainly about how they'r trying to rip off a place with such prestige. I mean, P@ul just came back and poted on HERE fgs. All the "other forum" guys literally came on here and fanboyed over it. He was one of the founder of wrestling animaations...this is where it started. not there. Anyway,sorry forbring it it back up i just wanted my two pence in the matter! Josh, i'll have my anis to you withint te next 5 hours
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Post by AdamLofthouseTV on Feb 28, 2014 9:57:32 GMT -5
Sometimes I don't even know why I am on The other place, they're really annoying and childish!
Anyway, I'm currently downloading movie maker again, stip will be sent soon!!
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Post by JDP on Feb 28, 2014 11:26:25 GMT -5
Just want to quickly say that I'm making my stip in about 20-30 minutes. Also I am going to start competing more on here, I'll never become a great animator if I don't compete on here more and cement my name in history.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 12:04:56 GMT -5
Dats wasist! However don't bank on me winning IC, I'm hoping somebody replaces and gives me a run for my money. *sigh* I was playing a character, not being rude. Joking around and roleplaying, not being rude. I congratulated you on your title win and apologized to Josh about Jairo leaving. How is that being rude? EDIT - I will apologize if anyone thought I was rude, that was not my intention. I was going to vote on the matches and make an animation for AniMania, I said I was looking forward to the animations, I was looking forward to animating. I was going to make a replacement for the IC title if Josh said yes, but due to time constraints I did not want to turn in an unfinished animation. I guess you do not value me.
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Post by wwextreme25 on Feb 28, 2014 12:22:13 GMT -5
Dats wasist! However don't bank on me winning IC, I'm hoping somebody replaces and gives me a run for my money. *sigh* I was playing a character, not being rude. Joking around and roleplaying, not being rude. I congratulated you on your title win and apologized to Josh about Jairo leaving. How is that being rude? I was going to vote on the matches and make an animation for AniMania, I said I was looking forward to the animations, I was looking forward to animating. I was going to make a replacement for the IC title if Josh said yes, but due to time constraints I did not want to turn in an unfinished animation. I guess you do not value me.CAUSE YOU ONLY A B+ PLAYA
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 12:26:12 GMT -5
*sigh* I was playing a character, not being rude. Joking around and roleplaying, not being rude. I congratulated you on your title win and apologized to Josh about Jairo leaving. How is that being rude? I was going to vote on the matches and make an animation for AniMania, I said I was looking forward to the animations, I was looking forward to animating. I was going to make a replacement for the IC title if Josh said yes, but due to time constraints I did not want to turn in an unfinished animation. I guess you do not value me.CAUSE YOU ONLY A B+ PLAYA I guess I am like Daniel Bryan then.
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Post by JDP on Feb 28, 2014 13:39:55 GMT -5
Finished my stip, I like it. EDITING STRING NOW FOR EVERYONE WHO LIKES TO BITCH ABOUT IT.
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Post by Ross on Feb 28, 2014 14:34:11 GMT -5
Tried so hard to make a replacement for The IC title today but time beat me... Oh well, didn't want the title, I just wanted to kick Andeh's ass.
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Post by AdamLofthouseTV on Feb 28, 2014 14:45:25 GMT -5
Finished my stip, I like it. EDITING STRING NOW FOR EVERYONE WHO LIKES TO BITCH ABOUT IT. Well, I'll bitch about you arena set up.. In other news I've handed in and I'm gunna take a stab at the hardcore stip
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