Why shortpack BoPPV?

[gps]

This thread has 2 parts. A happy story & a serious question.
Part 1-The happy story.
A friend of mine told me yesterday that he had found all of the John Laurinaitis build a figures except 1, Christian. I knew TRU was getting their truck in today so since I was in the area I stopped by. I saw them stocking the shelves & saw a full case of BoPPV on the floor. I opened it expecting to see the Ricardo set, but lo & behold it was the Johnny Ace set. So I grabbed the Christian for my friend & picked up a Sheamus to replace one I had gotten that had 2 crosses on the right wrist. Happy day. Pic attached.

Part 2-The serious question.
I only wanted 1 Christian, for my friend, which was good because he's only packaged 1 to a case. WHY? I get it in the regular elite line. There are 6 figs in a set & only 8 to a case, so you're not gonna get an even assortment. BoPPV should not have that problem. There are 4 figs in a set. 8 go in a case. Last time I checked 8 divided by 4 evenly. Why don't they just put 2 of each figure in a case instead of short-packing 1 and over-packing 1. Do we really need 3 John Cena & only 1 Christian in a case? WTF is up w/ that?

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Wow..... It all makes sense now

[Lorenzo Alcazar]

I think it's a crappy idea to short pack Best of PPV also. From one case of Best of PPV containing 8 figures, you can only build ONE John Laurinaitis.

The breakdown for Best of PPV Elite should be 2-2-2-2 regardless of the lineup. The only purpose behind best of PPV is to build the God damn character Mattel refuses to sell as a single, nobody needs these repaints anyway!

[qdogg]

Im not sure how many people end up buying all 4 anyway and building the actual figure regardless of how they are packed. I have Bret Hart from the Cole BOPPV one but no other ones from that BOPPV wave. Im sure lots of other people just have one or two which means one or two less Coles can be made or Ricardo or Johnny figures.

[dgnr8]

Absolutely right, and I agree 100%. I STILL have not located that Christian and he's the only one I need from the set. Its frustrating, especially that my area is is semmingly the last place in the US that gets new stuff. I have only seen 1 of the 3 TRU stores within a 1 hour drive of my home restock the BOPPV Big Johnny set, and OF COURSE both Christians were gone from the two cases put out. Literally EVER other figure remained. :/

[PJ]

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

[gps]

Mar 14, 2013 12:58:35 GMT -5 PJ said:

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

Thank you. While it sucks, that actually makes sense.

[The Madness]

I wish I would have bought that Christian when I saw two of them in one go right before Christmas. Still kicking myself over that one.

[RollinsFan44]

Mar 14, 2013 12:58:35 GMT -5 PJ said:

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

Bingo !, hit the nail on the head with that one.

[NameRedacted™]

I want this series SO BAD!! This might be the first time I buy a 2nd set JUST to create the Johnny Ace figure...

[Next Man’s Knowing Rock]

Not everybody is going to buy all four figures, so they pack the more popular character in larger amounts. If they thought everybody was going to buy all four, then they would release them as a four (well, five) pack. But the idea is that more people would just want a John Cena figure rather than all four figures or a Christian.

[gps]

Mar 14, 2013 14:00:02 GMT -5 Next Man’s Knowing Rock said:

Not everybody is going to buy all four figures, so they pack the more popular character in larger amounts. If they thought everybody was going to buy all four, then they would release them as a four (well, five) pack. But the idea is that more people would just want a John Cena figure rather than all four figures or a Christian.

The only problem w/ that logic is John Cena's not the more popular character. Mattel has a virtually identical figure coming out in E20 & around 5,000 other Cenas warming shelves already. Plus, isn't the idea of a build a figure to get people to buy all 4 figs so they can get a 5th fig for free?

[Von Hooten]

Mar 14, 2013 12:58:35 GMT -5 PJ said:

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

This strategy would actually work if TRU actually stocked something worth buying, and if their prices were better.

I really shouldn't complain about TRU since most of my WWE figs were purchased through them within the last year, but still I go there multiple times a weeks and 9 out of 10 times I leave empty handed, and I collect more than just WWE figs.

[Lorenzo Alcazar]

Mar 14, 2013 12:58:35 GMT -5 PJ said:

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

I think there are only 2 cases of Best of PPV with John Laurinaitis:

Case 1:
Cena x2
Sin Cara x3
Sheamus x2
Christian x1

Revision Case:
Cena x3
Sin Cara x2
Sheamus x2
Christian x1

Christian is x1 in both case assortments of Best of PPV John Laurinairis so far. So unless there is a 3rd revision case, which is highly unlikley, Christian is going to be impossible to find. Between the collectors and the scalpers, it's just not going to ever be easy to find.

They only did so many revision cases of the first Best of PPV with Michael Cole because they really ed us over with that one where the first case was only John Cena and Triple H, the second case was Cena, Triple H, and Daniel Bryan, and then the third they FINALLY added Bret Hart.

The Best of PPV with Ricardo Rodriguez was the smoothest as far as how it was distributed.

Punk x2
Miz x2
Big Show x2
Shawn Michaels x2

It was fair, there was no bullsh*t, it didn't cause anybody to scalp them or set really crazy prices because nobody was shortpacked, and you could actually build TWO Ricardo's per case.

[gps]

Mar 14, 2013 16:11:21 GMT -5 Lorenzo Alcazar said:

Mar 14, 2013 12:58:35 GMT -5 PJ said:

There will be revision cases just like past boPPV so it'll even out. Stores ask for it so it generates foot traffic into their stores. They feel the staggered case assortments mean you need to come back multiple times in hopes that you'll buy other items while there.

I think there are only 2 cases of Best of PPV with John Laurinaitis:

Case 1:
Cena x2
Sin Cara x3
Sheamus x2
Christian x1

Revision Case:
Cena x3
Sin Cara x2
Sheamus x2
Christian x1

Christian is x1 in both case assortments of Best of PPV John Laurinairis so far. So unless there is a 3rd revision case, which is highly unlikley, Christian is going to be impossible to find. Between the collectors and the scalpers, it's just not going to ever be easy to find.

They only did so many revision cases of the first Best of PPV with Michael Cole because they really ed us over with that one where the first case was only John Cena and Triple H, the second case was Cena, Triple H, and Daniel Bryan, and then the third they FINALLY added Bret Hart.

The Best of PPV with Ricardo Rodriguez was the smoothest as far as how it was distributed.

Punk x2
Miz x2
Big Show x2
Shawn Michaels x2

It was fair, there was no bullsh*t, it didn't cause anybody to scalp them or set really crazy prices because nobody was shortpacked, and you could actually build TWO Ricardo's per case.

The one I saw today was a revision case then. It had 3 Cenas. I got lucky, the only one I wanted was Sheamus. I only picked up Christian so my best friend can finish John Laurinaitis. The only part I want is the belt & I'm getting a Big Show w/ the belt in a trade through the classifieds board. I think the dull, painted one looks better anyway. Not a Christian fan, just think the distribution of the BoPPV sucks. It should be the easiest thing in the world. 8 figs in a case. 4 figs in a set. Simple. Put 2 sets in each case. What's so hard about that?

[Next Man’s Knowing Rock]

Mar 14, 2013 14:13:34 GMT -5 gps said:

The only problem w/ that logic is John Cena's not the more popular character. Mattel has a virtually identical figure coming out in E20 & around 5,000 other Cenas warming shelves already.

Sure, if the Cena figures don't sell, it's a problematic system for them. But the logic behind it is the same regardless.

Plus, isn't the idea of a build a figure to get people to buy all 4 figs so they can get a 5th fig for free?

The idea is to sell figures - as I said, if they thought everybody was going to buy all four figures, they'd have made it a boxset. The fact that it isn't a boxset, and that the top wrestler in WWE is packed more heavily than other characters in the set, speaks for itself.

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Mar 14, 2013 16:11:21 GMT -5 Lorenzo Alcazar said:

The Best of PPV with Ricardo Rodriguez was the smoothest as far as how it was distributed.

Punk x2
Miz x2
Big Show x2
Shawn Michaels x2

It was fair, there was no bullsh*t, it didn't cause anybody to scalp them or set really crazy prices because nobody was shortpacked, and you could actually build TWO Ricardo's per case.

True that. Even I was surprised when I picked up a full set of the RR figures all in one go in January. I remember I had half of Michael Cole on my shelf before finding Bret in July.

[~*Young $ Money*~]

My TRU had everyone but Christian as well so i didnt put any up b/c i didn't wanna get stuck having everything but that part.

[gps]

Mar 14, 2013 16:57:54 GMT -5 Next Man’s Knowing Rock said:

Mar 14, 2013 14:13:34 GMT -5 gps said:

The only problem w/ that logic is John Cena's not the more popular character. Mattel has a virtually identical figure coming out in E20 & around 5,000 other Cenas warming shelves already.

Sure, if the Cena figures don't sell, it's a problematic system for them. But the logic behind it is the same regardless.

Plus, isn't the idea of a build a figure to get people to buy all 4 figs so they can get a 5th fig for free?

The idea is to sell figures - as I said, if they thought everybody was going to buy all four figures, they'd have made it a boxset. The fact that it isn't a boxset, and that the top wrestler in WWE is packed more heavily than other characters in the set, speaks for itself.

You're a wise man sir. Though I would disagree about Cena being the top wrestler in WWE. He may be one of their best entertainers (I say one of because of Dwayne), but as far as a wrestler, he has a looong way to go.

[BCizzle]

I thought Mattel was gonna stop doing this dumb stuff. I guess not.

My TRU had a couple of fresh cases of this out today, I haven't seen them since December. Hopefully they sell quick and Build a Teddy shows up.