Von Hooten
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Post by Von Hooten on Oct 12, 2012 9:55:10 GMT -5
I just had a thought and I would like to share.
We've all heard how Mattel likes to tell us that Divas don't sell well, even though we believe different. Well I was looking at the Diva figs I own, and I was lucky enough to add E17 K2 to my collection this morning.
I can not help but notice that 80% of my diva figs are on my "Future Endeavored" shelf and K2 will be joining that shelf. I have to admit, if she didn't come with a shiney belt I wouldn't have spent $16.99 + tax on what is essentially a basic figure that is no longer with WWE.
So hence the question, Should there be a quicker turn around on Diva figs? It seems like everytime I find a Diva fig (which isn't often) they are either on their way or already out WWE's door.
I have to admit that even I have seen the Bella pack a few times already. They still sell but not as quick as one would think, and one can easily say that fans lost interest due to them being gone.
Since WWE has a fast turn over rate on their female talent, maybe Mattel should step on on making Diva figs and cash in before said Diva is gone from the roster.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Oct 12, 2012 10:02:00 GMT -5
They can't just magically make the figures faster - it would cost money to speed up the process, and it's not worth spending that money for figures that are generally only going to appeal to a niche of collectors (completists and weirdos) who are going to buy them anyway, regardless of how timely they may be. They are better off just doing what they're doing and keeping them short-packed.
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Post by lestial12 on Oct 12, 2012 10:06:18 GMT -5
The divas of today arent like the women wrestlers of days gone by. Trish, Lita, Mae and Moolah loved the business and thats what they wanted to do. The divas now just see WWE and wrestling in general as a launch pad for acting/modeling. Hell look at Stacy Kiebler and Torrie Wilson. Its just the fact that with so many male talents to make, the women take a backseat and by the time mattel gets the figure ready, the diva in question has decided to hang it up.
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Post by onleeone643 on Oct 12, 2012 10:51:19 GMT -5
^^ agreed. Womens wrestling isn't more than just a door to an acting/modeling career. Every one wants to be like the Rock.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 12, 2012 10:56:12 GMT -5
Divas figures aren't a priority for Mattel. Despite the fact that they are the most sought after characters in the line, Mattel is convinced that NO Divas figure could ever possibly be a hot seller after the Mickie James figure didn't sell even though it came out as she was being buried and released from the company....so now, every Diva character is shortpacked.
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Post by the franchise on Oct 12, 2012 11:02:40 GMT -5
Diva figures are the most sought after because they are produced the least. The demand for them is artificially created.
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Post by si4life02 on Oct 12, 2012 11:09:16 GMT -5
People think divas are popular because they are so short packed. If divas were packed two per case they would also warm the pegs. Only hardcore fans and completist collect divas. Most children don't want divas and parents are not gonna buy their son a female wrestler for Christmas
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 12, 2012 12:10:09 GMT -5
People think divas are popular because they are so short packed. If divas were packed two per case they would also warm the pegs. Only hardcore fans and completist collect divas. Most children don't want divas and parents are not gonna buy their son a female wrestler for Christmas I agree with the parents won't buy their son a diva figure. They should at least pack them 2 per case
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Von Hooten
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Post by Von Hooten on Oct 12, 2012 12:10:15 GMT -5
Very good points here.
I still think repaints shouldn't take so long. At least in 2010 Mattel gave us 2 opportunities to get Beth Pheonix, and Micky James.
BTW, why do people in general have gripes about female figures?
When I was a kid my parents, nor friends didn't care that I wanted the pink and yellow rangers to complete my Power Rangers line-up, or wanting Rouge, Storm, or Jean Grey for my X-Men collection. I grew as normal as one can be aside that I still buy figures at the age of 30.
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Post by thisguy89 on Oct 12, 2012 12:15:23 GMT -5
well it takes Mattel 8 months to a year to make that figure so they can't read the future and see who will stick around and who can't. They cant speed up the process much more either with out giving us crappy, Jakks quality figures or worse that we would all bitch about and not want anyways. It's up to the Divas if they stick around after there figures are made really. Not Mattel's fault. Also, if they started pumping out more Divas per series, that would be great, but horrible as well. I already spend $200 a month on plastic that sits on my shelf as is, being a collector of all the legends/ flashbacks, divas, and current superstars it does get a little overwhelming to keep up as is on top of having a life that i have to fund. I think if anything, Mattel should slow it down a bit. It would really help kill off the shelf warmers that are continuously building up non stop, and everyone would actually have money saved up for other things in life plus those new figures that comes out. Mattel should just move Divas to the elite line, kill off the basics, and just put those 6-7 elite sets out a year with each set having 1 Diva, 2 flashbacks, and 4 current superstars. Bump the set up to 7 figs per set and do that.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Oct 12, 2012 12:22:02 GMT -5
Divas don't sell well. Every1 complains they never see them in stores or are over priced online but I have seen pretty much every diva in my stores. I wish I could say that for the hard to find elite figures. Keep them in the basic lines, we don't need divas taking a spot in elite lineups....especially current no talent divas.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 12, 2012 12:26:13 GMT -5
People think divas are popular because they are so short packed. If divas were packed two per case they would also warm the pegs. Only hardcore fans and completist collect divas. Most children don't want divas and parents are not gonna buy their son a female wrestler for Christmas Diva figures are the most sought after because they are produced the least. The demand for them is artificially created. I disagree. I think Mattel grossly underestimates the adult percentage of the people who purchase figures from their WWE line. We post here and even WE have no idea the sheer number of adult or mid/upper teens who purchase the Mattel WWE figures. Divas an undercard characters like Hawkins, Barreta, Hunico,....they do have a target audience, but 1 per case is NOT enough to satisfy the sheer number of people that actually really DO want these figures.
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Post by thisguy89 on Oct 12, 2012 12:28:11 GMT -5
Divas don't sell well. Every1 complains they never see them in stores or are over priced online but I have seen pretty much every diva in my stores. I wish I could say that for the hard to find elite figures. Keep them in the basic lines, we don't need divas taking a spot in elite lineups....especially current no talent divas. I've yet to see a diva anywhere with in a 3 hour radius of my town. At least since Maryse came out. She was the last one i found ever. So i think they sell really well. If they didn't, they wouldn't cost $40 a piece online. Now I think current guys have a worse chance at selling than the Divas do. John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, R Truth, the list goes on. Once there is so many of them made they just shelf warm. Divas on the other hand rarely get a figure made, and when they do, it costs outrageous money online and is hard to get. So I think the elite line is perfect for them and do 1 per series or every other series with the divas. Either way, Basics got to go. They are clogging up so much space everywhere that its getting a little ridiculous.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Oct 12, 2012 13:31:45 GMT -5
Divas don't sell well. Every1 complains they never see them in stores or are over priced online but I have seen pretty much every diva in my stores. I wish I could say that for the hard to find elite figures. Keep them in the basic lines, we don't need divas taking a spot in elite lineups....especially current no talent divas. I've yet to see a diva anywhere with in a 3 hour radius of my town. At least since Maryse came out. She was the last one i found ever. So i think they sell really well. If they didn't, they wouldn't cost $40 a piece online. Now I think current guys have a worse chance at selling than the Divas do. John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, R Truth, the list goes on. Once there is so many of them made they just shelf warm. Divas on the other hand rarely get a figure made, and when they do, it costs outrageous money online and is hard to get. So I think the elite line is perfect for them and do 1 per series or every other series with the divas. Either way, Basics got to go. They are clogging up so much space everywhere that its getting a little ridiculous. They always cost a lot online first but I have had zero problems finding a diva. I don't collect any of them b/c I cant stand what has become todays women's division. Look at the bellas I've seen them so many times, kelly kelly basic 6, vickie, eve, i even saw the new beth a few times. Kids don't want diva figures and if they are gonna make I hope they are all short packed.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 12, 2012 13:53:55 GMT -5
Diva figures are bright and colorful and look cool on a shelf. That's why I collect most all of them. But these figures aren't only meant for people who like cool-looking figures. They're for young boys who, with some exceptions, probably aren't all that interested in adding a Divas division to their "federation," especially when the WWE has, up until fairly recently, failed to make any of the Divas have any character, whatsoever. If the Divas continue to be utilized in better ways, there will be more interest in the figures, and thus, more figures.
That being said, you can bet your butt that WHEN they release a Kaitlyn figure (hear that, Mattel, I leave you with no choice...), I will buy multiples to compensate for what kids don't buy.
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Post by WWECollector on Oct 12, 2012 16:27:05 GMT -5
Regarding case assortment, I think everything should just be packed evenly 2 per case. I always will think that too. I know they run a business and appeal to a specific market, but no figure should ever be 1 in a box. At least that is what I think.
Regarding Divas, I originally thought it would be nice if there was at least one Diva per wave, but that was back when there was actually a sizable Divas Roster. With the lack thereof now, I'd say its good that they get a Diva in every other series or every third series, which is what they are pretty much doing.
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Post by Stevie H on Oct 12, 2012 16:48:17 GMT -5
Mattel have been more than good with the Diva figures. I'm surprised we've got as many as we have.
The fact they took the time to make new molds for the Bellas frilled pants were enough to sell me on just how into detail Mattel are.
Divas are leaving WWE because they aren't put on TV in meaningful angles and most can make more money outside of WWE nowadays.
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Post by the franchise on Oct 12, 2012 18:48:44 GMT -5
People think divas are popular because they are so short packed. If divas were packed two per case they would also warm the pegs. Only hardcore fans and completist collect divas. Most children don't want divas and parents are not gonna buy their son a female wrestler for Christmas Diva figures are the most sought after because they are produced the least. The demand for them is artificially created. I disagree. I think Mattel grossly underestimates the adult percentage of the people who purchase figures from their WWE line. We post here and even WE have no idea the sheer number of adult or mid/upper teens who purchase the Mattel WWE figures. Divas an undercard characters like Hawkins, Barreta, Hunico,....they do have a target audience, but 1 per case is NOT enough to satisfy the sheer number of people that actually really DO want these figures. If retailers wanted more divas there would be more diva figures. The point is they feel that they will be unable to sell diva figures to the most important demographic for WWE figures which are young males. That is the reason for different cases. Some cases are more appropriate for what retailers want compared to other cases.
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Post by Chewdeezy on Oct 12, 2012 19:17:54 GMT -5
Even if the Divas leave WWE, they still sell at one per case. Mickie took a while but eventually sold out and faster than the Cenas, Mysterio & Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 11:07:53 GMT -5
I think a double pack with a guy would be good. Most of us would of jumped on a zach r and eve or Daniel B and AJ pack.
Also pre order the complete series 25 before it went on back order. I dont collect divas. Looking to sell eve. PM me if interested.
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