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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 11, 2012 17:25:04 GMT -5
He was charged with 2nd degree murder. I haven't seen a discussion about any of this. Discuss
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 11, 2012 17:38:11 GMT -5
The second degree murder charge is coming clear out of left field to me. Either they have way more evidence that we haven't even seen or they're intent on railroading this guy. I have no idea where they get second degree murder.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Apr 11, 2012 17:41:05 GMT -5
The second degree murder charge is coming clear out of left field to me. Either they have way more evidence that we haven't even seen or they're intent on railroading this guy. I have no idea where they get second degree murder. He's got Stand Your Ground on his side, at least I think he does. I don't see where they'll get anywhere even with 2nd degree murder. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Apr 11, 2012 17:41:49 GMT -5
The second degree murder charge is coming clear out of left field to me. Either they have way more evidence that we haven't even seen or they're intent on railroading this guy. I have no idea where they get second degree murder. |
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Post by facemeat on Apr 11, 2012 17:56:45 GMT -5
The second degree murder charge is coming clear out of left field to me. Either they have way more evidence that we haven't even seen or they're intent on railroading this guy. I have no idea where they get second degree murder. I'll admit I don't know everything about this case, but how, exactly, does that not describe precisely what happened here? |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 11, 2012 18:16:47 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible.
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Apr 11, 2012 19:10:01 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible.He has on multiple occasions, he told officials that Trayvon attacked him and he was covered in blood. Another story he told was that his life was threaten because Trayvon tried to kill him. The last story I heard was that he was about to take a suspicious looking device, and he felt the need to defend the community and stop him. All have be proven to be be fault, as told by the witness. |
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Post by facemeat on Apr 11, 2012 19:19:22 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible. Even if he did attack him (which I don't believe), it seems to me Zimmerman would still be the aggressor simply by following him even after being told not to. Who's to say Trayvon wasn't "standing his ground" by attacking a large man who was following him at night? |
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Apr 11, 2012 19:27:35 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible. Even if he did attack him (which I don't believe), it seems to me Zimmerman would still be the aggressor simply by following him even after being told not to. Who's to say Trayvon wasn't "standing his ground" by attacking a large man who was following him at night? Exactly, very efficacious point. |
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Post by jakksking1 on Apr 11, 2012 19:50:14 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible. Even if he did attack him (which I don't believe), it seems to me Zimmerman would still be the aggressor simply by following him even after being told not to. Who's to say Trayvon wasn't "standing his ground" by attacking a large man who was following him at night? Exactly, a large man following him who happened to have a weapon on him. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 11, 2012 20:02:14 GMT -5
I dont know the whole story, nor do I personally really care but I can see this turning into a total Rodney King type thing. White cop/security guard shoots black teen, white cop is charged, white cop is ruled innocent (or minor charges go against him)...Florida riots!
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Apr 11, 2012 21:04:25 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible.He has on multiple occasions, he told officials that Trayvon attacked him and he was covered in blood. Another story he told was that his life was threaten because Trayvon tried to kill him. The last story I heard was that he was about to take a suspicious looking device, and he felt the need to defend the community and stop him. All have be proven to be be fault, as told by the witness. No, they have not been proven to be untrue by anybody. According to multiple reports, Zimmerman was bloodied as a result of the "struggle". |
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 11, 2012 21:07:41 GMT -5
The media has been soo PRO race war when talking about this case I feel George will not get a fair trial.
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Post by thehardys4life on Apr 11, 2012 21:12:56 GMT -5
Not trying to be racist, but if he shot a white teen this story wouldn't be as big as it is.
Everyone likes to use race as an excuse for everything.
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 11, 2012 21:16:35 GMT -5
Not trying to be racist, but if he shot a white teen this story wouldn't be as big as it is. Everyone likes to use race as an excuse for everything. My point exactly. I feel sorry that the trayvan guy died but the media focuses more on White vs Black than they do on facts. I love also how the Media shows pics of Trayvan as a little boy and in reality wasnt that guy like 6'3? Color shouldnt be an issue here but the media has pushed the color topic so much George is prob viewed as head Clansman by people who hate whites. And also why do they call George white? He looks Indian, or hispanic, not white. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 11, 2012 22:36:18 GMT -5
Zimmermann story is basically that Martin attacked him and he shot Martin during the struggle. I don't see second degree murder there unless Zimmermann is lieing through his teeth which is always possible. Even if he did attack him (which I don't believe), it seems to me Zimmerman would still be the aggressor simply by following him even after being told not to. Who's to say Trayvon wasn't "standing his ground" by attacking a large man who was following him at night? You don't "stand your ground" by attacking someone. Zimmerman's story is that he lost Martin and was getting back in his truck. That's when Martin found him and asked him if he had a problem. Zimmerman said he didn't. Then Martin attacked him. If that's true, I have no idea where the murder charges are coming from unless the prosecutor has more evidence than we do or can prove that story is bogus. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 11, 2012 22:50:21 GMT -5
And also why do they call George white? He looks Indian, or hispanic, not white. Zimmerman is Hispanic. |
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Post by Unleashed in the East on Apr 11, 2012 22:52:41 GMT -5
Not trying to be racist, but if he shot a white teen this story wouldn't be as big as it is. Everyone likes to use race as an excuse for everything. THIS! You think Al Sharpton would give a  if it was a white kid. |
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Post by facemeat on Apr 11, 2012 23:14:06 GMT -5
Even if he did attack him (which I don't believe), it seems to me Zimmerman would still be the aggressor simply by following him even after being told not to. Who's to say Trayvon wasn't "standing his ground" by attacking a large man who was following him at night? You don't "stand your ground" by attacking someone. Zimmerman's story is that he lost Martin and was getting back in his truck. That's when Martin found him and asked him if he had a problem. Zimmerman said he didn't. Then Martin attacked him. If that's true, I have no idea where the murder charges are coming from unless the prosecutor has more evidence than we do or can prove that story is bogus. So, what would you suggest someone do if a random guy in an SUV was following them around a neighborhood, and then got out of said SUV and tried to find them on foot? I'm not saying violence is the correct answer, but I think most people would feel very threatened in that situation, and almost any response to it would be justified. The only thing we know is that they had a scuffle, Martin is dead, and Zimmerman killed him. Witness reports are conflicting, so the only steady details in between are coming from the man who killed him. Generally, you don't just take that person's word for it and call it a day. |
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Apr 12, 2012 2:12:41 GMT -5
Not trying to be racist, but if he shot a white teen this story wouldn't be as big as it is. Everyone likes to use race as an excuse for everything. THIS! You think Al Sharpton would give a if it was a white kid. then ask yourself this... would he have followed a white kid?? that crap works both ways.... |
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