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Post by stonecold316 on Aug 26, 2010 12:03:41 GMT -5
Hello, this is Bill from the Mattel Design Team. First off, thanks for the positive feedback to the interviews posted on this site. Everyone involved with the WWE line at Mattel is full of passion for the line and the brand, and I am glad this came across in the videos. However, I do need to clear up some small misconceptions about these lineups. Layla was never 'pulled' from this lineup, she was never in it. Maryse was always the intended Diva to be included in this lineup. Also, Zach and Rosa were also never in our Wave 8 plans either. We might have considered doing them together as a two pack at one point, but once they were split apart in the Draft any plans to do them together were dropped. Please do not believe any lineups that you may come across unless they come directly from a Mattel source. We intend to make a lot of WWE figures and to exploit the talent roster of WWE Superstars in a complete manner. Just because you do not see a certain Superstar in these lineups, or maybe believed that they were 'bumped' from what was assumed to be the actual lineup, does not mean there are not plans for those figures down the road. It just means that they are not in the plans for this particular wave of releases. Thanks Bill Thanks for the info, Sir.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 26, 2010 13:08:45 GMT -5
So just to be clear, Rosa and Ryder were discussed but thrown out because they are no longer together yet Dibiase and Rhodes, who have all new gimmicks now, are still going to be paired together. That makes complete sense I don't like Zack Ryder, but if he were to get released next week then his fans wouldn't get a figure of him. So understand peoples frustration over this situation. Additionally, playing the "lineups were never confirmed" card is simply a business way of turning around fault on the consumer for making assumptions. Its very possible, that the original lineups were set, Mattel changed the linuep for whatever reason, and then to do what minor damage control needed to be done, simply said don't get mad at us because its always been that way. For the people bitching about everyone bitching, you do know if we don't complain and ask for things that Mattel won't know we want it right? Collectively, we create the demand for products and kissing Mattels ass and telling them how perfect they are doesn't get HBKs cheese beard fixed. Mattel has done an amazing job, but we need to keep pushing them when they need pushed. Like why in the holy hell we are getting a Khali and Matt Hardy 2 pack is beyond me. Maybe they have a great answer to that question but that doesn't change the fact that I am going to ask it.
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Post by mgwyn on Aug 26, 2010 14:00:25 GMT -5
I like Zack Ryder as much as the next guy, but he and Rosa are not as over with the general audience as M. Hardy and even Khali. As far as Ted and Cody, 5-7 months ago, they were part of the biggest storyline on Raw, when Zack Ryder was in the midcard on ECW.
Please don't try to detract the guys from Mattel from posting on this forum by flaunting your e-go.
Hurricane and Mike Knox were released months before Basic 5 was released, and they were still included. I'm pretty sure that if Zack Ryder was released next week and didn't leave on any sort of sloppy terms, that Mattel would still release his figure. They don't just whip these things up overnight. The cost that goes into planning, designing, and releasing the action figure isn't going to be eaten just because a wrestler no longer wrestles for WWE.
Case in point, the guys from Mattel aren't going to post something that isn't true just to please the Zack Ryder fans, so I think it's a bit ridiculous to treat him with disrespect for offering us insight into their planning.
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Post by codyinwonderland on Aug 26, 2010 14:19:36 GMT -5
Well, Happy to see that atleast one diva made the series. I prefer a Maryse figure over Layla so that's pretty cool. But the fact that Rosa and Zack didn't get there figures makes me a little upset. I also saw one of the post's that said "Rosa was a outfield", But she's with Zack which to me already makes the sales alot more higher than if it was just Rosa. Moving on from that , Here's the attire I hope Maryse will be wearing.
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Post by James St. James on Aug 26, 2010 14:56:38 GMT -5
That's a pretty common misconception, often times the combination of a diva and a low-to-mid carder results in a set that shelfwarms for years. Kelly/Balls Michelle McCool/Chuck Palumbo Maria/Santino Sharmell/King Booker Miz/Layla Katie Lea/Paul Burchill Natalya/Tyson Kidd
Can all still be found at your local TRU, divas sell the best as single carded figures at one per case. I truly feel the abundance of divas in 2 packs were the demise of Jakks divas and I hope Mattel doesn't do it too often.
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Post by codyinwonderland on Aug 26, 2010 15:11:54 GMT -5
That's a pretty common misconception, often times the combination of a diva and a low-to-mid carder results in a set that shelfwarms for years. Kelly/Balls Michelle McCool/Chuck Palumbo Maria/Santino Sharmell/King Booker Miz/Layla Katie Lea/Paul Burchill Natalya/Tyson Kidd Can all still be found at your local TRU, divas sell the best as single carded figures at one per case. I truly feel the abundance of divas in 2 packs were the demise of Jakks divas and I hope Mattel doesn't do it too often. Yes, I agree but what I was really saying is that Rosa would have been a huge shelfwarmer. But with Zack Ryder the sales would of been a bit better but not much. Also to be honest I have 6 Mickie's at my TRU and so does the next town.
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Post by B-Radimus Prime on Aug 26, 2010 15:43:19 GMT -5
That's a pretty common misconception, often times the combination of a diva and a low-to-mid carder results in a set that shelfwarms for years. Kelly/Balls Michelle McCool/Chuck Palumbo Maria/Santino Sharmell/King Booker Miz/Layla Katie Lea/Paul Burchill Natalya/Tyson Kidd Can all still be found at your local TRU, divas sell the best as single carded figures at one per case. I truly feel the abundance of divas in 2 packs were the demise of Jakks divas and I hope Mattel doesn't do it too often. Yes, I agree but what I was really saying is that Rosa would have been a huge shelfwarmer. But with Zack Ryder the sales would of been a bit better but not much. Also to be honest I have 6 Mickie's at my TRU and so does the next town. Same here. Mickie is everywhere at the 3 nearest TRU's here.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 26, 2010 15:48:44 GMT -5
I like Zack Ryder as much as the next guy, but he and Rosa are not as over with the general audience as M. Hardy and even Khali. As far as Ted and Cody, 5-7 months ago, they were part of the biggest storyline on Raw, when Zack Ryder was in the midcard on ECW. Please don't try to detract the guys from Mattel from posting on this forum by flaunting your e-go. Hurricane and Mike Knox were released months before Basic 5 was released, and they were still included. I'm pretty sure that if Zack Ryder was released next week and didn't leave on any sort of sloppy terms, that Mattel would still release his figure. They don't just whip these things up overnight. The cost that goes into planning, designing, and releasing the action figure isn't going to be eaten just because a wrestler no longer wrestles for WWE. Case in point, the guys from Mattel aren't going to post something that isn't true just to please the Zack Ryder fans, so I think it's a bit ridiculous to treat him with disrespect for offering us insight into their planning. - Mattel SHOULD be on here. 1/3 -1/2 of their target market is on here everyday. Focus groups have never been so easy for the 18-35 - Matt and Khali are peg warming, go look - Cody and Ted were sort of in the main angle but were never over. In addition, they just had a 2 pack, which was released twice - Hurricane and Knox went into production before their release, I thought that was a pure common sense scenario - Have you worked for a company that operates in millions of dollars? I have, I know how it works. In addition to that I currently run a business. So lets not pretend you are going to teach me something or that Mattel some how supercedes normal business functions - No one is being disrespectful - Mattel's job is to give us what we, the consumer, wants. Without our money, they don't have a business. It amazes me how often we forget that fact.
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Post by James St. James on Aug 26, 2010 15:59:37 GMT -5
Mickie's shelfwarming doesn't really surprise me, WWE was burying her in her final years in the company and the figure started to saturate the market after her release. There are more factors than just her being a female.
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Post by codyinwonderland on Aug 26, 2010 16:06:49 GMT -5
Mickie's shelfwarming doesn't really surprise me, WWE was burying her in her final years in the company and the figure started to saturate the market after her release. There are more factors than just her being a female. True, But did I mention I have about 3 Beth's at every Kmart. It seems in my area diva's are shelf warming the worst. I can walk into a Walmart and get what I need because there's about 4 or 5 of them sitting right there.
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Aug 26, 2010 16:14:44 GMT -5
Mickie's shelfwarming doesn't really surprise me, WWE was burying her in her final years in the company and the figure started to saturate the market after her release. There are more factors than just her being a female. True, But did I mention I have about 3 Beth's at every Kmart. It seems in my area diva's are shelf warming the worst. I can walk into a Walmart and get what I need because there's about 4 or 5 of them sitting right there. To be fair most of my stores that have that rumble set have like 6 cody rhodes maybe 4 jerichos and countless triple h's, and as for mickie and TRU my TRU does have alot of mickies, however they also have tones of everyone else in bassic series 3(i'm talking about 8 of each besides jericho who may have more)
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Post by ozzytorezwrestling on Aug 26, 2010 17:29:50 GMT -5
who ever sees my otw animations i will be getting elite 5 jack swagger, rey mysterio. elite series 6 cm punk(i like this one better than the elite 1 i have).elite series 7 no one. and what will probably be my favorite series,series 8 sheamus,drew mcintyre,evan bourne(yes another one)and edge.
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Post by sgptripleh on Aug 27, 2010 1:00:20 GMT -5
shemus bourne drew must have!!!
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Post by The Tommo on Aug 27, 2010 1:38:42 GMT -5
cant wait for basic masters and finley and also the cody(if its mania attire)
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Aug 27, 2010 2:17:48 GMT -5
Elite Drew, Sheamus, and Bourne will be mine!
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Post by mankind421 on Aug 27, 2010 3:53:54 GMT -5
If Elite Regal does not come with an amazing robe, I will blow up a hospital.
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Post by King Silva on Aug 27, 2010 4:33:45 GMT -5
Well at least they are making Maryse although I am sad about Rosa and Layla getting pushed aside.
I hope all of the figs look good.
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Post by The Boglin on Aug 27, 2010 6:55:29 GMT -5
That's a pretty common misconception, often times the combination of a diva and a low-to-mid carder results in a set that shelfwarms for years. Kelly/Balls Michelle McCool/Chuck Palumbo Maria/Santino Sharmell/King Booker Miz/Layla Katie Lea/Paul Burchill Natalya/Tyson Kidd Can all still be found at your local TRU, divas sell the best as single carded figures at one per case. I truly feel the abundance of divas in 2 packs were the demise of Jakks divas and I hope Mattel doesn't do it too often. None of those 2 packs are at my tru and some haven't been for years, what are you smoking? And booker T is a main eventer.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 28, 2010 9:05:33 GMT -5
Mickie's shelf warming can be contributed to the fact she was released before some areas got her fig. I got mine at Walmart before but never saw it again till after she was gone from the company. Had she been gone when I found mine, I too would have passed and spent my money elsewhere.
And people should be happy that we haven't got a Ryder yet, because of his tights change. Now maybe we can bypass the one legged tights and go right to the trunks.
Personally I'm just glad we are getting a Masters figure. Sure he jobs out weekly on the "D" show, but still can't wait to add him to my collection.
Plus that is a sharp line-up for elite collectors. No real reason to complain.
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Post by Dan88 on Aug 28, 2010 9:37:32 GMT -5
Mickie's shelf warming can be contributed to the fact she was released before some areas got her fig. I got mine at Walmart before but never saw it again till after she was gone from the company. Had she been gone when I found mine, I too would have passed and spent my money elsewhere. And people should be happy that we haven't got a Ryder yet, because of his tights change. Now maybe we can bypass the one legged tights and go right to the trunks. Personally I'm just glad we are getting a Masters figure. Sure he jobs out weekly on the "D" show, but still can't wait to add him to my collection. Plus that is a sharp line-up for elite collectors. No real reason to complain. No way bro!!! We need a figure of both doing Mattel His one legged tights were awesome, I'll be gutted if Mattel go straight to his Trunks
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