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Post by Guest on Aug 19, 2009 3:26:13 GMT -5
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habrofan83
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Post by habrofan83 on Aug 19, 2009 4:20:34 GMT -5
nice, still wondering why yellow boots has never been seen on card though
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Post by therock2008 on Aug 19, 2009 7:44:41 GMT -5
im selling a dusty with yellow boots on ebay now, i dont want to part with it but since ive left uni i am skint!
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Aug 19, 2009 8:19:22 GMT -5
I might get bad press here, and i hope i dont.. but, considering the long time debate of 'was it miss paint or sun fade', that picture screams sun fade. Again, im not bashing you, im not doubting the fact that you and many believe that this is an actual 'yellow boot', so i hope you dont take this as any kind of attack, its not meant to be.
The debate has been going for years, no one can really know for sure unless that guy who works for hasbro can confirm, but i can not see that being a legitimate mis-paint.
Next to the white boots, the yellow boots versions legs are faded, his upper torso is darkened, the front of his boots are actually in transition between white and yellow. All of these things shout 'sun damage' very loudly.
What you have possibly done, accidently, has put a stop to any doubt (in my mind at least) that yellow boots exists as a legitimate figure.
Id love to be wrong, because the myths about hasbro figures are still, to this day, exciting and fun... but for me, yellow boots has become an 'old wives tale' that just isnt doing it for me anymore.
Either way, its a lush piece to have in a collection dude, even if it turns out to be sun damage, you have the whole story/myth in front of your eyes on display. That to me is just as important and just as valuable.
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Post by ICHIBAN 一番 on Aug 19, 2009 8:35:12 GMT -5
nice to have, but ill be a full believer when i see one moc, if ever!
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Post by habrofan83 on Aug 19, 2009 8:37:05 GMT -5
i second that, well said
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Post by Guest on Aug 19, 2009 11:55:58 GMT -5
They're all legitimate points foxeth, i never take offence, i'm a very mellow person (just ask the people i manage in work!) - one thing i will say, and i'll take a photo of this tonight as i'm just finishing work, is that the bottom of the boots including inside the small hole that is on the bottom of the boots, is also the same shade of yellow. Now there are bigger collectors out there than me with more experience but how can this happen with sun damage?
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Post by humanitarianaryan on Aug 19, 2009 12:38:15 GMT -5
its been mentioned before, it is a variant. The yellow boots dusty rhodes has a yellow molding. The regular dusty rhodes figure has a black mold. If you have a regular dusty and its paint scraped, you can see the black underneath the legs. On my yellow boots dusty rhodes, it has a small paint scrape and you can see the light yellow molding. Its definitely NOT sun fade, why would the sun cause the upper body to darken, while lightening the hair and lower legs?
that doesnt make sense, to me at leaset. I really think its a reaction of the paint on the different mold colors. On top of that i thing its some kind of oxidation of the paint (like rusting), it must be exposed to the air. That would also explain why it has never been seen MOC, it needs to be exposed to the elements over a LONG period of time.(ive never seen a yellow boots dusty 5-10 years ago. anyways....just my 2 cents. bk
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Aug 19, 2009 12:41:45 GMT -5
its a valid point, but i think (maybe wrong) that the undercoat of paint is yellow, or that the plastic itself is yellow. So when the sun damages the outer paint, the white starts to just rub off/fade/, generally vanish, leaving the yellow undercoat/plastic.
i suppose if the sun has caught the figure in different angles over the last 18 years or so, it could explain why under the figure is sun damaged. i know when i was a kid i never left my hasbros standing, they were generally always face down in the ring.
Im just presuming here, non of that is fact.
EDIT: just read the post above this and its more than likely the case. Never knew 2 different molds were used for under dusty.
If what your saying is correct, do we know yet... out of the black plastic mold & the yellow plastic mold, which more was produced more. Is there any actual fact about it yet? or is it just a case of 'depends if the yellow comes through or not'.
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Post by brinsko3 on Aug 19, 2009 14:44:31 GMT -5
After reading the post of two different mold colors, I decided to look at my 2 dustys to see if they have 2 different molds. I knew both of them weren't mint. To my surprise I seen that my yellow boot was indeed a yellow mold underneath. I then grabbed my normal version, which I haven't touched in probably 2 years, and to my surprise he has become darker in color and now has a slight yellowing to his boots and darker arms. I know for a fact that he was once bright and normal colored, but his mold is also a yellow mold. Apparently I got 2 yellow boot Dustys now, but if anyone can back the black mold dusty then I think we can say for sure that its the molds..
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Post by meatybat on Aug 19, 2009 15:47:56 GMT -5
Paul , can you see in the hole on the feet if the plastic is yellow inside ? It looks like is stops partially up the foot hole.
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Post by Guest on Aug 19, 2009 16:01:22 GMT -5
Paul , can you see in the hole on the feet if the plastic is yellow inside ? It looks like is stops partially up the foot hole. I tried taking a better picture but it was to small of a hole to get any decent detail. it is the same colour inside the hole too as far as i can see
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Post by judge on Aug 19, 2009 16:15:44 GMT -5
Personally I believe the 'yellow boot' Dusty is a valid varient..... without doubt there will always be some colour fading on some figures but looking at this Dusty I think its legit..... it would be great for one to show up MOC one day just to answer the question. Another great addition mate!
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Post by Guest on Aug 19, 2009 16:20:32 GMT -5
Personally I believe the 'yellow boot' Dusty is a valid varient..... without doubt there will always be some colour fading on some figures but looking at this Dusty I think its legit..... it would be great for one to show up MOC one day just to answer the question. Another great addition mate! Cheers mate, I like that it's brought up lots of discussion again, i'm just really happy to have it in my collection, it's a great piece
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Post by TheRockers on Aug 19, 2009 22:54:46 GMT -5
does anyone remember when yellow boot dusty's started popping up? it seems like its been awhile but not too long.
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Post by habrofan83 on Aug 20, 2009 4:54:25 GMT -5
ok to settle it, if anybody can provide pics of yellow boots moc then im a believer
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Post by Guest on Aug 20, 2009 5:28:48 GMT -5
ok to settle it, if anybody can provide pics of yellow boots moc then im a believer looks like for now your going to stay a sceptic then It just seems strange to me that on this board which by my reckoning is the biggest for Hasbro collectors (sorry if i'm wrong) we never see any other variants in such numbers or going for such money for instance a Piper with yellow shirt or Britsh Bulldog "Yellow tights Variant".... if it was down to sun damage then surely other figures would have similar ongoing debates surrounding them?
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Post by jthomps3 on Aug 20, 2009 6:44:53 GMT -5
All Hasbros with white paint experience white paint discoloration (i.e. Warrior series 2, Virgil's tights, etc.). I always was bothered by this as a kid. The color is still "off-white," and not "bright white" as Hasbro intended.
All that said, there is no WAY paint would alter that drastically. The variant definitely exists.
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Post by ICHIBAN 一番 on Aug 20, 2009 7:52:59 GMT -5
All Hasbros with white paint experience white paint discoloration (i.e. Warrior series 2, Virgil's tights, etc.). I always was bothered by this as a kid. The color is still "off-white," and not "bright white" as Hasbro intended. All that said, there is no WAY paint would alter that drastically. The variant definitely exists. ...white paint doesnt alter drastically, white plastic does tho, its due to age and absorbtion eg cigarette smoke, light, cold or heat, that is why it will be virtually impossible to find one moc as the bubble and card protects it, and as we know moc dustys are well looked after unlike loose figures.
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Post by habrofan83 on Aug 20, 2009 10:39:38 GMT -5
i loves these debates. dont you?
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